ive got a few rats nest of "fuck, im outta spots, ill jbox this one in later" but i need it powered now, so i just wired it up with a wago and let it hang from the ceiling.
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yeah, that wierdness is what makes me uncomfy.
If i were him, id open up the fan box (he's gotta do it anyway to remove the hunter fan control), and tone out that neutral to make sure its the same one as in in the receptacle.
As @wetwillie noted, all neutrals go back to the same place.
I hear you. That "bar area" - only area I haven't stripped the drywall. I just know there is a HOT MESS where it is tied in with the bathroom and fuck shit,
My only joy - he was stupid enough to build HIS house, at the bottom of about a 45 degree incline from mine. Such a moron, often can't drive up/down from his own house. HE split the land, turned 90 degrees we both would have had sweet walkouts to the rear.
We're talking a man SO stupid, he vented a full bathroom into the garage. In Michigan. Where THAT promptly would/did make a sheet of ice on the entire garage door. Insulation be damned. NIce house until the city went away. That's why we need building inspector,s uh huh
But he needed that wire to run load to fan and light. And for the switch that was used, there's not even a spot for neutral, so it would have just been a loose wire.
I don't have one of those things. But if I get one, and its the same, I'm good? I'd MUCH rather do that then have to get up into the attic and traverse all the way to the other end of the house, in Florida, in the summer, to find the other junction box.
Ya, of course I do. Do I do this with the breaker off? Don't all neutrals connect in the panel?
Jehannum
Puts the "pro" in procrastination
yeah, I don't understand what @Domon is playing at here.
The neutrals all go to a fuckin' bus bar, the only way you would be able to tell which is which is if you disconnect them one at a a time until you find which one it is, and then identify the circuit by which wires that neutral came in with.
Mean Mr. Mustard
Always shouts out something obscene
Jehannum
Puts the "pro" in procrastination
Jehannum
Puts the "pro" in procrastination
any hot will show voltage between it and neutral. All neutrals are bonded in the fuse panel.
yes, thats my point. He claim the outlet is the same circuit. i want to know if its not.
Just plug a lamp into the outlet, turn off the fan breaker and see if the lamp turns off.
If they're on different circuits, do not under any circumstances share a neutral between two circuits. You can overcurrent the neutral and breakers won't save ya.
If they're on different circuits, do not under any circumstances share a neutral between two circuits. You can overcurrent the neutral and breakers won't save ya.
Oh, if that's what you meant, then yes. The outlet is off when the breaker is off.
it takes 5 seconds to confirm theres no weirdness with that neutral so you can be 100% safe.
"its off" doesnt mean there isnt wiring weirdness. For example, it could have 50v's on it, or 87. Not enough to run anything you plug in, but plenty enough that a multimeter would show it.
Just do a 5 second check, and if all the reading are sub 2v you're good to go (parasitic loading is a thing, hence when its not necessarily zero)
"its off" doesnt mean there isnt wiring weirdness. For example, it could have 50v's on it, or 87. Not enough to run anything you plug in, but plenty enough that a multimeter would show it.
Just do a 5 second check, and if all the reading are sub 2v you're good to go (parasitic loading is a thing, hence when its not necessarily zero)
@Jehannum made it seem like my question wasn't crazy. If all neutrals are tied together at the panel, what is this multimeter test going to show? I'm really trying to learn here...