wtf...someone just got shot in our building
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Everybody has their own statistics, but I think the most reliable ones point to the fact that more children drown in buckets of water, bathtubs and swimming pools than actual firearm accidents. That is, once you remove the young gangbangers from the equation and they are as young as 15 these days.
Furthermore, if you are forced to lock up your gun then it becomes worthless as a home defense tool. Every home I knew as a child had a loaded weapon and nobody ever got shot. We were taught to respect firearms. I must say that there is a general lack of respect by youth these days… but that is no reason to make a home defenseless.
And, there are reasonable claims that firearms are used each year about 2 million times to prevent crimes. I believe it.
Finally, aren’t we overdue for the big one in Frisco. Drown a few commies that way.
(Oh, the child's name was Tamisha... sounds like the world was saved from a half dozen gangbangers. Dewayne was probably her uncle, cousin and real father. She found the piece under the 5lb. bag of crack.)
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There comes a point in time that you have to decide what is more important though.
I know I would rather have my teenager, who thought it would be cool to show his friends the gun while no one was home, alive and it take me an extra 2 minutes to grab my gun from a locked closet.
Also, a lot of people who try to defend their homes with guns usually end up hurting themselves or other family members .. or getting themselves hurt.
kids and guns do not mix
You are generalizing, but all the same, how you manage your firearm is your choice. Everybody should respect that... for you.
Just don't get together with similar thinking friends and try to impose your wishes on me. Unfortunately, all too often that happens. I have always kept the bullets right by the firearm. I took the responsibility to get my sons to respect a firearm by the time they would know how to load it.
And sorry, guns and children do mix. Get involved with the NRA Eddy Eagle program early. Then follow up with teaching them to shoot. Who knows, one day they may save your life. Unless of course everything is always locked up and then its no benefit to anybody for home protection.
As I have posted many times before. I grew up in a community with loaded shotguns everywhere. Children knew what a firearm was capable of doing. We respected them and never played with them as toys. A child who wants to show off his parent's handgun thinks it's a novelty. Teach them what it really is and that will not happen.
But perhaps the overriding issue here is young children left alone without supervision. Latchkey kids, under 15, are left to parent themselves. Access to a firearm, for them, is only one of many potential problems they face.
And no, a lot of people do not end up harming themselves or a loved one when attempting to use a firearm for home defense. If that were remotely true you would see it everyday splashed across the gun grabbing media. I read about robbers getting shot, with the typical newsie comment about the DA reviewing whether to charge the homeowner (which they virtually never do). Most thugs, when confronted by an armed potential victim, simply run away. You don't read about in the papers because that is not the agenda the press is trying to sell.
Again, I fully respect your decision. It fits your situation. Just don't work with others to take away my choices.
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I guess I'll just choose to continue living in a neighborhood I don't have to do that in 
.. once I feel I need to protect my home with a firearm .. it's time to move.
.. once I feel I need to protect my home with a firearm .. it's time to move.I guess I'll just choose to continue living in a neighborhood I don't have to do that in
It can happen anywhere. Remember the Carr brothers in the mid-west. Have a dog that barks or motion detectors. And keep your shootin' iron by the bed. Just remember, even if they got the drop on you they better be perfect in their first shot. If you know what you are doing, they are dead. Never give up. But then, if your piece ain't handy... you're screwed.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1908
No it underscores the dangers of people being irresponsible with guns. By the time I was 14 it had been drilled into my head that if I ever saw a gun lying around and I was not with my parents the absolute first thing I was to do was inform an adult AND DONT TOUCH THE GUN. This despite the fact that I knew how to unload and secure a firearm, I knew that unless I had permission my hands were not to touch a gun. Period.
This girl's death was the fault of the parents for not teaching their child what to do. No two ways about it.
it's shit like this that gives gun owners a bad name
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If I ever have a kid you can be sure that kid - boy or girl - will know how to safely shoot, clear, break down and clean guns before middle school starts.
Kids and guns can mix just fine. Many rural parents are perfectly capable of teaching their 12 year olds how to take a rifle and hunt dinner for the family all by their lonesome.
I guess I'll just choose to continue living in a neighborhood I don't have to do that in
Everyone's got their way of doing it and that's perfectly cool.
As long as that choice isn't forced upon me by legislation. I'd much rather have something and never need it a single time in my life then not have it and need it that one time.
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looks like you have a new stalker. and I think he is in love with you.
and i used to wonder why people stopped respecting their elders...mostly because they can't get past their prejudices of the past. Did a gangbanger come in and molest you as a child or hurt someone you know? or have you watched too much Charles broson movies?
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So wait, who is taking the high horse road here? I simply told you I didnt like you in a polite way, there needed to be no more. Since you wanted to go ahead and stick things in my ass it concerned me a bit. If it is your age that sets you apart then hopefully it is because you are young, not old. If you cannot understand someone politely saying they would not like to talk to you please learn to accept honesty without anger. This is exactly why I told you I didnt care to talk to you, this exact reason. You proved it in your first reply.
On the surface I could accept that. But recent memory of a similar incident eventually unearthed that a teen gangbanger was showing off his piece and shot another teen to death. They then came up with a story, which eventually unraveled. You know there are many, many drug dealer, gangbangers out there between 15 - 18. They are street-wise and armed all the time. They simply do not care about safety. A family gathering is a perfect stage from which a 'banger' can begin to flash his piece (as it were) for the ladies.
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Kids are naturally rebellious. It is a good thing. All young folks need to want to make their own way in life... otherwise, they would never leave home. Of course, today many young folks are hanging around until they are 30. Or, they move out and then move back. I left home at 18 (two pairs of pants and two shirts) and rarely went back.
Usually the comments about older folks being prejudiced is because younger people just don't like hearing the stark realities of the world; it springs from a natural unaffected simplicity of youth.
The first time I was over seas for a few weeks on what I swore to my girlfriend at the time was “a brief trip to Colorado to QA a new military related stryker module” – we had to escort a relative popular marine corps figure head to a meeting to take a stab at ‘smoothening out’ a currently hostile (war related) environment in a city you frequently hear about on the news. Anyways, at the gate of where the meeting was to take place we had pat down all near by civilians (yes against their will) to rule out potential threats – standard recon that anyone in this line of work will tell you needs to happen. Long story short, a local to the area attempted to eliminate a co-worker of mine via strangling by shoelace… it was then that I realized that if we eliminated guns back home it wouldn’t matter, it would just be something else that lives would be threatened with; there is ALWAYS something else. If someone wants somebody dead it will happen, guns or not. And along the same lines, if stupid people were destined to kill themselves or someone else they will manage to, guns or not.
Man, video games are the shit.
Man, video games are the shit.
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