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you know what, this actually makes sense in terms of why it never really came to light. I wondered how it took this long, I always think of big celebrities as being extra vulnerable to bad publicity, but you eventually reach a threshold where you're so big you're almost invincible to rumours. not many people hit it, but MJ was there.
I think they had a lot of wealthy, influential, connected people running interference for him. The diehard fans did as well voluntarily to the point anyone who even broached the subject was immediately painted as a villain like "how dare you question...".

I grew up during his heyday with Thriller and all that. Thinking back, he was pretty much kept out of the public eye for anything that wasn't performance or promotion. Nobody ever ran into the guy at a restaurant or on the street like you hear happen with most celebrities. Few if any interviews and certainly nothing off the cuff. Everything very scripted and controlled.

Turns your stomach pondering how many people must've known and had a hand in hiding it. And apparently were cool with that as long as the checks cleared.
 
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you know what, this actually makes sense in terms of why it never really came to light. I wondered how it took this long, I always think of big celebrities as being extra vulnerable to bad publicity, but you eventually reach a threshold where you're so big you're almost invincible to rumours. not many people hit it, but MJ was there.
Hollywood is held together by their secrets. Edit hips said it way better and in much more detail
 

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Hollywood is held together by their secrets. Edit hips said it way better and in much more detail
The rabid fans are the worst. Wholly delusional idol worship to the point of being cult members. Except they know nothing of the guy beyond the carefully and expertly contrived and presented public image. It's as if they don't know what marketing is.
At least the People's Temple and Heavens Gate types actually knew and spent time with their leaders.
 
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I think they had a lot of wealthy, influential, connected people running interference for him. The diehard fans did as well voluntarily to the point anyone who even broached the subject was immediately painted as a villain like "how dare you question...".

I grew up during his heyday with Thriller and all that. Thinking back, he was pretty much kept out of the public eye for anything that wasn't performance or promotion. Nobody ever ran into the guy at a restaurant or on the street like you hear happen with most celebrities. Few if any interviews and certainly nothing off the cuff. Everything very scripted and controlled.

Turns your stomach pondering how many people must've known and had a hand in hiding it. And apparently were cool with that as long as the checks cleared.
I think the kiddy diddley wasn't the reason he was out of the public eye, I think that was more due to his horrible childhood and how he was paraded around. The two are probably intertwined in some sad way.
 
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I think the kiddy diddley wasn't the reason he was out of the public eye, I think that was more due to his horrible childhood and how he was paraded around. The two are probably intertwined in some sad way.
I can see that. The guy was never not a performance attraction. Likely never knew what "normal" was as we relate to it.

From just a general public perspective I think something went sideways or just snapped in him between the early 80's Thriller Michael and the bleached skin, tiny plastic nose weird persona that followed. Don't know how or if it relates to the molestation stuff but there seemed to be a mental break in there that even the best PR machine couldn't cover up.
 

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I can see that. The guy was never not a performance attraction. Likely never knew what "normal" was as we relate to it.

From just a general public perspective I think something went sideways or just snapped in him between the early 80's Thriller Michael and the bleached skin, tiny plastic nose weird persona that followed. Don't know how or if it relates to the molestation stuff but there seemed to be a mental break in there that even the best PR machine couldn't cover up.
I keep seeing this "fact" that he once rented out a grocery store so he could go shopping. All the other customers were friends and family.

Not sure if it is bunk, but I could see it being true.
 
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I keep seeing this "fact" that he once rented out a grocery store so he could go shopping. All the other customers were friends and family.

Not sure if it is bunk, but I could see it being true.
Now that you mention it I've heard that before too. No idea if it's true but it seems like it could be. Kinda fits.
 

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I don't know if I should feel creepy for getting a chuckle out of this, and it might just be coincidence, but the photo featured on his wiki page is a still shot of him performing at the "Wiener Stadium". Yes I know it's a common name in Austria/German but still....





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Tried to get into that. Its Always Sunny just spoiled those actors for me (except DeVito,) didn't like it enough that I just cant get into anything else they do.
That happened to me with the bird on The Mick. I still watched most of them though.

For some reason, I never had that problem with Dennis since I’ve seen him in a bunch of roles, and I was a little late watching It’s Always Sunny.
 

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He was snapping mentally before Off The Wall.

His level of fame hadn’t been seen since the Beatles and hasn’t been seen since. And sometimes, separating from society makes the fan base even more rabid, making whoever withdraw even more.

One reason why John Lennon moved to NYC is he could walk down the street there. He said he never could’ve moved anywhere else in the world and had that, at the time.

The fame didn’t bring on the pedophilia, that was engrained.

Lots of people knew about Harvey Weinstein prior to his shenanigans becoming public knowledge too. Society has a way of hiding creeps in plain site. Look at the Catholic Church.
 
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He was snapping mentally before Off The Wall.

His level of fame hadn’t been seen since the Beatles and hasn’t been seen since. And sometimes, separating from society makes the fan base even more rabid, making whoever withdraw even more.

One reason why John Lennon moved to NYC is he could walk down the street there. He said he never could’ve moved anywhere else in the world and had that, at the time.

The fame didn’t bring on the pedophilia, that was engrained.

Lots of people knew about Harvey Weinstein prior to his shenanigans becoming public knowledge too. Society has a way of hiding creeps in plain site. Look at the Catholic Church.
Was/is also the cash cow for the family to an incredible degree. 80s Janet was a big success but nothing like him. The amount of money that parlayed into boggles the mind. I think at one point they owned the Beatles catalogue or something like that though I might be getting my famous people mixed up.
 
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Was/is also the cash cow for the family to an incredible degree. 80s Janet was a big success but nothing like him. The amount of money that parlayed into boggles the mind. I think at one point they owned the Beatles catalogue or something like that though I might be getting my famous people mixed up.
I’m pretty sure Michael owned it, or still does. ? He (his management Co) may have been the folks that sold Revolution use to Nike that wadded so many panties.
 
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