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Discussion in 'useless chatter' started by water, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Im stoked:happy:
     
  2. :lol: Whoops.
     
  3. Thats the thing though, bad things do not only happen to good people. Unless he starts killing Lannisters, he is subverting his own trope.
    And cutting off Jamie's hand is not enough to balance
     
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  5. I'm really wondering what the story is about now.
     
  6. I want more Bran-magic
     
  7. The real story is that the white walkers are waking up in the north, and the fukn king is too stupid to do anything about it
     
  8. This is my bet. All the infighting will suddenly become petty and worthless (lannisters wont care, and will continue being stupid), and the white walkers will just start wiping out everything in their path


    Eventually Mother of Dragons will cross the sea (Yunkai had ships), and she will find herself in the middle of a war with the white walkers, rather than with the 7 kingdoms, and be massively outclassed despite how powerful she is (rob stark, stannis, the lannisters, they all pale in comparison to her army right now, and she's only just getting started)

    Her dragons will work well against the wights, as they are susceptible to fire, but theyll have to get dragonglass to kill the wights.
     
  9. I think show-goers have this idea that the story is about the Starks; while they were/are a key piece of the story, they're not THE story.

    As for worrying that bad things will only happen to the good people: "oh, my sweet summer child"
     
  10. bear in mind when you say stuff like "unless he starts..." that 2.5 books have happened between what you've watched and what he's already written and published.

    If you get curious about what's in store, you can always read :p

    That said, reading non-readers' speculation is usually equal parts baffling and hilarious.
     
  11. Oh good. Im waiting for some bad people to die horrible-ass deaths. Ill enjoy that.
     
  12. Been over this, read halfway into the second and stopped. They felt... tedious? I got nothing from them, no real enjoyment
     
  13. You didn't consider the lords of Qarth bad? They kidnapped her dragons.
     
  14. Yet you can't stop watching the movie about it?
     
  15. Ladybutt watches it while I sit on the couch and read a book. I watch it through osmosis.

    I was thinking about why I'm not a fan, I think it's because GRRM spends all this time letting you get to know who these people are, letting you get a sense of them, then he kills them and you're left thinking "The fuck did I spend all that time reading about them for?"
    It's hard to articulate.
     
  16. ok, yeah, they died nicely. I guess i didnt consider them main characters, they were only in two episodes or so.
     
  17. So far, as an author, he does something I like:

    Establishes a set of characters at the beginning, a fairly large one and then runs with them throughout the story. He rarely introduces new characters, its always people you already know. It makes them some how more familiar .
     
  18. Death doesn't make the story about how they got there any less interesting...
     
  19. I'd have to pay attention more, but I feel that's a little wrong. He does have a core cast, but he is clearly adding people. Considering who he kills, who knows if the people he's adding are going to become core cast members or not?
     
  20. I said it's hard to articulate, there are aspects of it that I didn't bother to flesh out as it would take too much time and I doubt I could put it across in such a way that would be easily understood.
    But no, death doesn't make their story less interesting, but their death also doesn't encourage you to keep reading and find another character for you to champion.