Transgender Political Update!

Mental disorder would be a person mutilating themselves because their brain is suffering from a psychotic disorder. Feeling you should be a woman instead of a man is something you are born with, I wouldn't say it was much different than being gay. Is being gay a "mental problem?"

It used to be considered one.
 
Mental disorder would be a person mutilating themselves because their brain is suffering from a psychotic disorder. Feeling you should be a woman instead of a man is something you are born with, I wouldn't say it was much different than being gay. Is being gay a "mental problem?"
It is an aberration.

Anything that deviates from some norm is one.
 
Mental disorder would be a person mutilating themselves because their brain is suffering from a psychotic disorder. Feeling you should be a woman instead of a man is something you are born with, I wouldn't say it was much different than being gay. Is being gay a "mental problem?"

Honestly and seriously, I think it is a mental problem. Through genetics or environmental cues that are exaserbated from mutated genes or some other precursor can turn on the feeling of sexual interest in the "wrong" pheromones or genitalia. The same can be said for those wishing they were the other sex.
 
Honestly and seriously, I think it is a mental problem. Through genetics or environmental cues that are exaserbated from mutated genes or some other precursor can turn on the feeling of sexual interest in the "wrong" pheromones or genitalia. The same can be said for those wishing they were the other sex.

It's a twist in the genetics, but I don't see it as a problem.
 
The "norm" is in great need of a update.
No not really. Just because you think something is normal, you think it's cool to think it's normal, and accepting it as normal doesnt just "make" it normal.

It is plain that the vast majority of the population has no intention to change their sex. That would be called "normal" it's a baseline. It is a simple thing; do you want to be a man? Likely not, but sorting out the reasons for this would require a great deal of writing. So we'll just call that natural. Now something that deviates from what is natural is an aberration, regardless of the reasons behind it.
 
Links or shins.

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/demographics.html
Voter exit polls in the United States found that between 4 and 5 percent of voters in the last five U.S. national elections identified as gay or lesbian. While voters may constitute a large sample of the U.S. population, they are still not representative of the population at large.

A national survey in Canada (2003) found that 1.9 percent of men and 1.6 percent of women reported being gay, lesbian, or bisexual.

http://www.answers.com/topic/demographics-of-sexual-orientation
Australia

2003: The largest and most thorough survey in Australia to date was conducted by telephone interview with 19,307 respondents between the ages of 16 and 59 in 2001/2002. The study found that 97.4% of men identified as heterosexual, 1.6% as gay and 0.9% as bisexual. For women 97.7% identified as heterosexual, 0.8% as gay and 1.4% as bisexual. Nevertheless, 8.6% of men and 15.1% of women reported either feelings of attraction to the same sex or some sexual experience with the same sex. Half the men and two thirds of the women who had same sex sexual experience regarded themselves as heterosexual rather than homosexual.[2]



Canada

1988: A study of 5,514 college and university students under the age of 25 found 1% who were homosexual and 1% who were bisexual. [3]
1998: A stratified random sample of 750 males aged 18 to 27 in Calgary, Canada included questions on sexual activity and orientation. 15.3% of men "reported being homosexual to some degree" on the basis of three (often overlapping) measures of homosexuality: (1) voluntary, same-gender sexual contact from age 12 to 27: 14.0%; (2) overlapping homosexual (5.9%) and/or bisexual (6.1%) self-identification: 11.1%; and (3) exclusive (4.3%) and non-exclusive (4.9%) same-gender sexual relationships in past 6 months: 9.2%.[4]
2003: A survey of 135,000 Canadians found that 1.0% of the respondents identified themselves as homosexual and 0.7% identified themselves as bisexual. About 1.3% of men considered themselves homosexual, about twice the proportion of 0.7% among women. However, 0.9% of women reported being bisexual, slightly higher than the proportion of 0.6% among men. 2.0 % of those in the 18-35 age bracket considered themselves to be either homosexual or bisexual, but the number decreased to 1.9 among 35-44 year olds, and further still to 1.2% in the population aged 45-59. Quebec and British Columbia had higher percentages than the national average at 2.3% and 1.9%, respectively.[5]


Denmark

1992: A random survey found that 2.7% of the 1,373 men who responded to their questionnaire had homosexual experience (intercourse).[6]
France

1992: A study of 20,055 people found that 4.1% of the men and 2.6% of the women had at least one occurrence of intercourse with person of the same sex during their lifetime. [7]


Norway

1988: In a random survey of 6,300 Norwegians, 3.5% of the men and 3% of the women reported that they had had a homosexual experience sometime in their life. [8]


United Kingdom

1992: A study of 8,337 British men found that 6.1% had had "any homosexual experience" and 3.6% had "1+ homosexual partner ever." [9]


United States

1990-1992: The American National Health Interview Survey does household interviews of the civilian non-institutionalized population. The results of three of these surveys, done in 1990-1991 and based on over 9,000 responses each time, found between 2-3% of the people responding said yes to a set of statements which included "You are a man who has had sex with another man at some time since 1977, even one time." [10]
1992: The National Health and Social Life Survey asked 3,432 respondents whether they had any homosexual experience. The findings were 1.3% for women within the past year, and 4.1% since 18 years; for men, 2.7% within the past year, and 4.9% since 18 years;[11]
1993: The Alan Guttmacher Institute found of sexually active men aged 20–39 found that 2.3% had experienced same-sex sexual activity in the last ten years, and 1.1% reported exclusive homosexual contact during that time.[12]
1998: A random survey of 1672 males (number used for analysis) aged 15 to 19. Subjects were asked a number of questions, including questions relating to same-sex activity. This was done using two methods — a pencil and paper method, and via computer, supplemented by a verbal rendition of the questionnaire heard through headphones — which obtained vastly different results. There was a 400% increase in males reporting homosexual activity when the computer-audio system was used: from a 1.5% to 5.5% positive response rate; the homosexual behavior with the greatest reporting difference (800%, adjusted) was to the question "Ever had receptive anal sex with another male": 0.1% to 0.8%.[13]
2003: Smith's 2003 analysis of National Opinion Research Center data[14] states that 4.9% of sexually active American males had had a male sexual partner since age 18, but that "since age 18 less than 1% are [exclusively] gay and 4+% bisexual". In the top twelve urban areas however, the rates are double the national average. Smith adds that "It is generally believed that including adolescent behavior would further increase these rates."The NORC data has been criticised because the original design sampling techniques were not followed, and depended upon direct self report regarding masturbation and same sex behaviors. (For example, the original data in the early 1990s reported that approximately 40% of adult males had never masturbated--a finding inconsistent with some other studies.)
 
Honestly and seriously, I think it is a mental problem. Through genetics or environmental cues that are exaserbated from mutated genes or some other precursor can turn on the feeling of sexual interest in the "wrong" pheromones or genitalia. The same can be said for those wishing they were the other sex.

That is actually exactly what I was getting at. If you took whatever this thread is (the word for it changes every couple months), there are reasons behind it, in other words: a pathology. Wanting to change sex is a symptom (a negative one some might say). Pathology + symptoms = mental disorder.

Which isnt a bad thing per se. Just about everyone has some kind of mental disorder, e.g. depression, irrational fear etc., but it is obviously not the norm.
 
i'd still say normal. maybe i should say modern society (because gays were around since forever but didn't really come out). in today's modern society, it is normal to see or hear of or know or blahblah a gay person.

More exposure than say in 1950, sure. Being normal? Probably not the right term.
 
Wtf...so the wife will become a lesbian?

I don't understand unless they're getting a divorce.