Advice The Home Improvement/Automation Thread

[Jehannum]

All our outlets are old. Some of them aren't even GFCI. So I'll be replacing them. Is it worth adding an AFCI? I assume like GFCI, they protect everything downstream. Is there some easy way to determine the outlet closest to the breaker, or do I just have to dig everything out and map it out?

No, don't put in an AFCI breaker. They're hot garbage.

 

[fly]

No, don't put in an AFCI breaker. They're hot garbage.

Outlet, not breaker. Still garbage?

 

[Jehannum]

Outlet, not breaker. Still garbage?

I have no input on outlets, unfortunately.

 

[ZRH]

All our outlets are old. Some of them aren't even GFCI. So I'll be replacing them. Is it worth adding an AFCI? I assume like GFCI, they protect everything downstream. Is there some easy way to determine the outlet closest to the breaker, or do I just have to dig everything out and map it out?

You just need them on the first receptacle in the branch or you can change the breakers.

They are essentially gfcis but for arcs instead of ground. If you go breakers don't get carried away and put them in lighting branches cause they'll trip constantly.

 

[fly]

You just need them on the first receptacle in the branch or you can change the breakers.

They are essentially gfcis but for arcs instead of ground. If you go breakers don't get carried away and put them in lighting branches cause they'll trip constantly.

You literally repeated what I said. What drugs are they giving you?

 

[Valve1138]

Why does it matter that all your outlets aren't GFCI?

Only some need to be by code.

AFCI is not worth it, they'll nuisance trip if there are wiring issues. Even with the newer AFCI's it's a problem.

 

[fly]

Why does it matter that all your outlets aren't GFCI?

Only some need o be by code.

AFCI is not worth it, they'll nuisance trip if there are wiring issues. Even with the newer AFCI's it's a problem.

It doesn't matter. But they are old and some of them are even yellowing. We're refreshing the house, so there's no reason not to redo the outlets too.

Thanks for the tips on AFCI guys.

 

[fly]

Also, since no one said anything, I'll assume there's no easy way I'm missing to determine what the first outlet is.

 

[Valve1138]

It doesn't matter. But they are old and some of them are even yellowing. We're refreshing the house, so there's no reason not to redo the outlets too.

Thanks for the tips on AFCI guys.

Use these, they have light switches too.

Leviton Decora Edge 15 Amp Tamper-Resistant Duplex Outlet, 10-Pack, White M02-E5325-0MW - The Home Depot

Decora Edge wiring devices provide the traditional appearance and superior performance of Decora devices in a faster, easier-to-install, and safer design. The line consists of Single Pole and 3-Way Switches

www.homedepot.com

Basically a Wago Lever-Nut for the connection. Not a back-stab.

 

[ZRH]

You literally repeated what I said. What drugs are they giving you?

Hydroxizine andddddd hydrocodone. I'm still know electrician stuff.

 

[Valve1138]

Also, since no one said anything, I'll assume there's no easy way I'm missing to determine what the first outlet is.

Turn off the power. Rip out the old outlets. Turn a single breaker on and the use your probe to see what's live. Connect the new outlet there. Wash, rinse repeat.

 

[Valve1138]

But again, you don't need GFCI protection in our living room or bedrooms.

Just kitchen counter outlets, bathroom outlets, outdoor outlets, garage outlets.

 

[ZRH]

Also, since no one said anything, I'll assume there's no easy way I'm missing to determine what the first outlet is.

Remove old receptacles, turn power on, see what is live.

 

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

But again, you don't need GFCI protection in our living room or bedrooms.

Just kitchen counter outlets, bathroom outlets, outdoor outlets, garage outlets.

Here its within 3 ft of a water source, I think
Which is weird because theres one randomly in my garage with no taps or plumbing anywhere near it

 

[ZRH]

Use these, they have light switches too.

Leviton Decora Edge 15 Amp Tamper-Resistant Duplex Outlet, 10-Pack, White M02-E5325-0MW - The Home Depot

Decora Edge wiring devices provide the traditional appearance and superior performance of Decora devices in a faster, easier-to-install, and safer design. The line consists of Single Pole and 3-Way Switches

www.homedepot.com

Basically a Wago Lever-Nut for the connection. Not a back-stab.

2.50 per outlet!

 

[Valve1138]

Here its within 3 ft of a water source, I think
Which is weird because theres one randomly in my garage with no taps or plumbing anywhere near it

Is it the corner where you pee?

 

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Is it the corner where you pee?

even if it is, it was there before I started doing that

 

[fly]

Use these, they have light switches too.

Leviton Decora Edge 15 Amp Tamper-Resistant Duplex Outlet, 10-Pack, White M02-E5325-0MW - The Home Depot

Decora Edge wiring devices provide the traditional appearance and superior performance of Decora devices in a faster, easier-to-install, and safer design. The line consists of Single Pole and 3-Way Switches

www.homedepot.com

Basically a Wago Lever-Nut for the connection. Not a back-stab.

Oh that's awesome. Wagos! Awesome and such a great way to troll the greybeards.

 

[fly]

2.50 per outlet!

Its $25, who cares?

 

[Domon]

Oh that's awesome. Wagos! Awesome and such a great way to troll the greybeards.

those are fantastic outlets.