Ontopic Proposition 19

OzSTEEZ

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Is anyone else following this?

If the current polls are even slightly accurate, then Marijuana will become legalized in California very soon. This would be a defining moment for America.
 

OzSTEEZ

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Check out this mofo.


http://cannacentral.com/news/la-county-sheriff-the-law-is-what-i-say-it-is/
LA County Sheriff: The Law Is What I Say It Is

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It sounds like a bad line from an old episode of the Dukes of Hazzard, but the Sheriff in this case isn’t Roscoe and Boss Hog isn’t the one spewing anti-American bile. Instead, it’s Sheriff Lee Baca of Los Angeles County.

“Proposition 19 is not going to pass, even if it passes,” Baca said at a news conference today. The Sheriff says he and his deputies will continue enforcing current marijuana law, even if Proposition 19 changes it.

He claims to have the authority to do this based on his judgment that the proposition is unconstitutional. An interesting take, since his oath of office required him to “uphold and defend it” not “decide what it says.”

Of course, all of this is for our own good, according to Baca. He’s afraid of the “far-reaching repercussions” of marijuana’s legalization, such as increased traffic accidents (despite studies showing marijuana does not negatively affect driving) and workplace disputes over safe workplaces (see this argument spelled out and discussed here).

Baca claims that his department targets the “dealers,” not the “users.” My question to the sheriff is where the users are supposed to get their (in this hypothetical post-Prop 19 world, perfectly legal) marijuana from if there are no dealers. Obviously the LA County Sheriff’s department also considers growers to be dealers and raids them as well.

Maybe, in Baca’s dreamy world of constitutional delusion, the ready-to-use bud just appears magically. Maybe it’s the Tooth Fairy’s side job. Of course, that would make her a dealer too. Uh-oh. Millions of kids are about to have their world destroyed by the sheriff when he busts the Tooth Fairy for trafficking. I guess now we know what pixie dust is really made of. Eh?

According to Baca’s twisted logical train, local law enforcement should ignore local laws and go with the federal law instead. By that measure, medical marijuana isn’t legal either. On the other hand, the sheriff and his department will have to stop enforcing vehicle emissions stickers and smog rules, HOV lane access restrictions, and more because none of those are on the federal books either.

In fact, there are hundreds of California laws that the sheriff will have to stop enforcing and demand that other enforcement agencies do the same. Since those aren’t federal laws.

Sorry, Sheriff. Last time I checked, the people of Los Angeles County, CALIFORNIA paid your salary. Not the federal government. Maybe you should stop kidding yourself and move to Washington, D.C. and get a job at the DEA where you belong. They love jackboots in Treasury and DHS.

Sheriffs are elected by the people of their county. I think it’s time the people of LA County let Mr. Baca know that and tell him to find a new line of work.

On a side note, I guarantee that if I could find a study that shows that marijuana cures male pattern baldness, Baca would turn a 180 and be all in favor of Prop 19. I’ll let you know what I find.
 

fly

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That would be awesome. However, its likely to end up shot down in Court by the stupid fucking interstate commerce clause in the Constitution. :rolleyes:
 

Floptical

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They can make it legal all they want but the second they do you will see a ton of issues coming up with people's jobs. Even with medical use you can run into issues with your job.
 

polo

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if i became chief protectorate of ireland this would be the first thing i'd do.

get wiped and go find out your family history. a whole new breed of american tourists. not just the ones in their 40's who seem to wear baseball caps everywhere.
 

JAXvillain

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that does raise some perplexing issues. so it would be legal for my coworkers in cali to partake but not for me being in GA?
 

my little brony

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They can make it legal all they want but the second they do you will see a ton of issues coming up with people's jobs. Even with medical use you can run into issues with your job.

as long as people aren't getting high at work then it's not going to be an issue

people are retarded if they start bragging about getting high in front of their boss
 

polo

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They can make it legal all they want but the second they do you will see a ton of issues coming up with people's jobs. Even with medical use you can run into issues with your job.

what sort of contract would contain that you can't smoke a joint? what about if you spend a week in amsterdam? believe me, apart from the van gogh gallery - that's all there fucking is there.
 

my little brony

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that does raise some perplexing issues. so it would be legal for my coworkers in cali to partake but not for me being in GA?

I would imagine some large companies that operate across state lines may implement employee policies that require you to follow federal laws instead :iono:
 

my little brony

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what sort of contract would contain that you can't smoke a joint? what about if you spend a week in amsterdam? believe me, apart from the van gogh gallery - that's all there fucking is there.

technically it's still illegal according to federal law so any policy that has "zero tolerance" of illegal drugs would apply
 

polo

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technically it's still illegal according to federal law so any policy that has "zero tolerance" of illegal drugs would apply

it's a very strict interpretation, but i wouldn't give it much weight. passive smoking? i don't smoke but i get hotboxed almost everytime i go to a friends house.
 

dbzeag

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This is just for the state, right? So technically Californians would have to grow their own because wouldn't the DEA shut down outside trade of the crop from other states that do not abide?
 

JAXvillain

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there are already a number of growing "factories" in cali for the medicinal stuffs
 

eileenbunny

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They can make it legal all they want but the second they do you will see a ton of issues coming up with people's jobs. Even with medical use you can run into issues with your job.

Wouldn't it just work the same as alcohol works? Don't show up for work drunk or high and you are good. I guess federal jobs are different, but just because something is legal doesn't mean you have to do it. We still make choices.

This is just for the state, right? So technically Californians would have to grow their own because wouldn't the DEA shut down outside trade of the crop from other states that do not abide?

California does grow their own and the DEA regularly busts those people too.
 
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