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Fair enough.

Its kind of neat. That seems crazy expensive at first but hey, 50 hour battery. That would make it worth it to some. You're not going to run it 24/7. Could last anywhere from a long weekend to like 2 weeks or something if you're just playing it at the campsite in the evenings. Or serve as backup charge for other stuff. Could plug it up waterproof and carry your other electronics inside it.

That was my thoughts exactly. I have some other smaller pelican cases I use for camping to protect stuff so this looked kind of cool. Right now I use a small water proof Altec blue tooth speaker. I can clip it to my pack or use it anywhere in the camp site. But the battery is only a few hours at best.
 
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Their copy says you could put your wallet & keys inside. While you 'could,' I'm not sure that I would. It seems like the kind of thing that could be picked up and walked off with!!!

Most places you would use that thing you're not really worried about theft. I.E out on a boat, in the back country, camping, etc. Plus it has a place for a lock and you could just cable it to something so they can't walk off with it easy.
 
My Target is saying that they don't sell it anymore so they aren't sure what will happen if they return it to do the price change. Worst case I drive my ass up to New Tampa and return it
 
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My Target is saying that they don't sell it anymore so they aren't sure what will happen if they return it to do the price change. Worst case I drive my ass up to New Tampa and return it
It said out of stock to me up there from the link. Let me know if they have some still if you go pls :)
 
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That was my thoughts exactly. I have some other smaller pelican cases I use for camping to protect stuff so this looked kind of cool. Right now I use a small water proof Altec blue tooth speaker. I can clip it to my pack or use it anywhere in the camp site. But the battery is only a few hours at best.

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You or Jehanuum or gee probably have experience with this.

Portable solar chargers. The type you can unfold a panel and fasten it to the top of your pack while you're out and about all day.

Everything I've seen is all about the phone. I don't care about the phone. I'm thinking small rechargeable led flashlights, headlamps, and small, low output lanterns like you'd hang in a tent.

Searching around to spec how much charger to charge how much stuff how fast seems to be either pages of design engineer speak with a million variables or "user-friendly" maths that seem too simplified to be very accurate.

So.... is batt Wh / charger watts output x 2 (rule of thumb I read somewhere) get you even remotely in the ballpark as to how long it might take charger X to charge battery Y?

I'm also halving the rated charger outputs as those seem to be peak output, like perpendicular to an unobstructed sun in the middle of the afternoon on a nice day. Walking around wearing it, it seems 50% might even be generous depending on where you are.

Built-in regulators/protection circuits a common thing? Voltage can swing wildly with conditions it seems. Charger has to have more voltage than chargee to work.

So...imagine this. We'll call it foot travel camping. Hike some distance, go fishing or whatever, make camp for the night, use some light. Next morning, break camp, hike some distance, do whatever, and make camp at a new spot the next night. Rinse, repeat. Can't just leave stuff charging in the sun at camp because you're not going back there. Charge it on your back on your way to a new place.

Could a small charger like that fill 2 or 3 low power led lights during a day hike enough to use them, at least sparingly, the coming night? At a price that won't make me say "screw it, I'll just bring more batteries" or hurt too bad if things get waterlogged, broken, or lost? Is this asking too much?


It seems this isn't enough for old-school rechargeable Energizer AA's or whatever but might work with newer 3.7v Li-ion led efficient low power draw stuff.


My main trip-up is getting a decent estimate of how much can do how much for how long and nearly all of these common affordable consumer grade things being all about phones and tablets, which to me have no place in the wilderness. I mean, I do bring my phone with me, but it's only there in case we need to call in a medevac or something. Or maybe take some pictures. Not like we're making calls or surfing UF and stuff.
 
Product recommendation request:

You or Jehanuum or gee probably have experience with this.

Portable solar chargers. The type you can unfold a panel and fasten it to the top of your pack while you're out and about all day.

Everything I've seen is all about the phone. I don't care about the phone. I'm thinking small rechargeable led flashlights, headlamps, and small, low output lanterns like you'd hang in a tent.

Searching around to spec how much charger to charge how much stuff how fast seems to be either pages of design engineer speak with a million variables or "user-friendly" maths that seem too simplified to be very accurate.

So.... is batt Wh / charger watts output x 2 (rule of thumb I read somewhere) get you even remotely in the ballpark as to how long it might take charger X to charge battery Y?

I'm also halving the rated charger outputs as those seem to be peak output, like perpendicular to an unobstructed sun in the middle of the afternoon on a nice day. Walking around wearing it, it seems 50% might even be generous depending on where you are.

Built-in regulators/protection circuits a common thing? Voltage can swing wildly with conditions it seems. Charger has to have more voltage than chargee to work.

So...imagine this. We'll call it foot travel camping. Hike some distance, go fishing or whatever, make camp for the night, use some light. Next morning, break camp, hike some distance, do whatever, and make camp at a new spot the next night. Rinse, repeat. Can't just leave stuff charging in the sun at camp because you're not going back there. Charge it on your back on your way to a new place.

Could a small charger like that fill 2 or 3 low power led lights during a day hike enough to use them, at least sparingly, the coming night? At a price that won't make me say "screw it, I'll just bring more batteries" or hurt too bad if things get waterlogged, broken, or lost? Is this asking too much?


It seems this isn't enough for old-school rechargeable Energizer AA's or whatever but might work with newer 3.7v Li-ion led efficient low power draw stuff.


My main trip-up is getting a decent estimate of how much can do how much for how long and nearly all of these common affordable consumer grade things being all about phones and tablets, which to me have no place in the wilderness. I mean, I do bring my phone with me, but it's only there in case we need to call in a medevac or something. Or maybe take some pictures. Not like we're making calls or surfing UF and stuff.

I use goal zero and have had great luck. I have multiple products. I have smaller panels that can do a phone or AAs. I have some of their solar lanterns. And larger boulder panels. I use the nomad to strap on my pack and charge the phone.
 
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Product recommendation request:

You or Jehanuum or gee probably have experience with this.

Portable solar chargers. The type you can unfold a panel and fasten it to the top of your pack while you're out and about all day.

Everything I've seen is all about the phone. I don't care about the phone. I'm thinking small rechargeable led flashlights, headlamps, and small, low output lanterns like you'd hang in a tent.

Searching around to spec how much charger to charge how much stuff how fast seems to be either pages of design engineer speak with a million variables or "user-friendly" maths that seem too simplified to be very accurate.

So.... is batt Wh / charger watts output x 2 (rule of thumb I read somewhere) get you even remotely in the ballpark as to how long it might take charger X to charge battery Y?

I'm also halving the rated charger outputs as those seem to be peak output, like perpendicular to an unobstructed sun in the middle of the afternoon on a nice day. Walking around wearing it, it seems 50% might even be generous depending on where you are.

Built-in regulators/protection circuits a common thing? Voltage can swing wildly with conditions it seems. Charger has to have more voltage than chargee to work.

So...imagine this. We'll call it foot travel camping. Hike some distance, go fishing or whatever, make camp for the night, use some light. Next morning, break camp, hike some distance, do whatever, and make camp at a new spot the next night. Rinse, repeat. Can't just leave stuff charging in the sun at camp because you're not going back there. Charge it on your back on your way to a new place.

Could a small charger like that fill 2 or 3 low power led lights during a day hike enough to use them, at least sparingly, the coming night? At a price that won't make me say "screw it, I'll just bring more batteries" or hurt too bad if things get waterlogged, broken, or lost? Is this asking too much?


It seems this isn't enough for old-school rechargeable Energizer AA's or whatever but might work with newer 3.7v Li-ion led efficient low power draw stuff.


My main trip-up is getting a decent estimate of how much can do how much for how long and nearly all of these common affordable consumer grade things being all about phones and tablets, which to me have no place in the wilderness. I mean, I do bring my phone with me, but it's only there in case we need to call in a medevac or something. Or maybe take some pictures. Not like we're making calls or surfing UF and stuff.

Biolite also makes decent light weight ones. They also have a cool stove that you burn sticks in and it charges your phone.

https://www.rei.com/product/115523/biolite-wood-burning-campstove-2-with-flexlight
 
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