Thread Piers Morgan - Canned. Even more irrelevant now

Or in this end of the world, usually the case is:

- mental illness
- veterans with unmanageable PTSD
- kids running away from bad situations (abusive parents, etc)

Not very often you find a hobo-by-choice.

edit: oh never mind, you're being mr. terminologist on us.

Werd.

Terminoloist or not, he's wrong.

I suggest he goes to some shelters sometimes and meets people. Or even lives with them for a bit to see why they're homeless. Or even better, talk to the ones who are hobos by choice (many I lived with) and then tell me how normal they are (hint: they all have MH issues with substance misuse issues on top)
 
maybe its your 400 years of language degredation that made you not understand the previous post.

terminology is important. Homeless != transient != hobo != beggar
 
Or in this end of the world, usually the case is:

- mental illness
- veterans with unmanageable PTSD
- kids running away from bad situations (abusive parents, etc)

Not very often you find a hobo-by-choice.

edit: oh never mind, you're being mr. terminologist on us.

you forgot massive substance abuse issues.
 
Werd.

Terminoloist or not, he's wrong.

I suggest he goes to some shelters sometimes and meets people. Or even lives with them for a bit to see why they're homeless. Or even better, talk to the ones who are hobos by choice (many I lived with) and then tell me how normal they are (hint: they all have MH issues with substance misuse issues on top)

been there, done that.
 
The extent of mental ill health in people who are homeless

The most quoted and most authoritative source on the extent of mental
ill health in the adult population in the UK suggests that the prevalence of
common mental health problems is over twice as high and of psychosis 4-15
times as high amongst the homeless population compared to the general
population.

This is worse among street homeless people, who may be 50-100 times more
likely to have a psychotic disorder than the general population.

Serious mental illness is often accompanied by alcohol and/or substance
misuse problems. Most studies suggest that around 10-20% of the homeless
population would fulfil the criteria for dual diagnosis.

Homeless people, in particular those with mental ill health, have higher
mortality rates than the general population. They are up to nearly 5 times more
likely to die than the equivalent age group of the general population.

Rates of reported personality disorder are also high. In a recent survey of
homeless services in England, staff estimated two thirds of their clients
presented with characteristics consistent with personality disorder, many of
whom were thought to be undiagnosed.

Among people who are in touch with psychiatric services there is a significant
minority that is homeless. A recent European study found that just under a
third of the British sample of patients with schizophrenia had experienced
homelessness in their lifetime, with over a tenth having experienced
“rooflessness.”








Soooooooooooo normal
 
Tubingen: a census of all homeless men: 73% had at least one psychiatric
disorder; 74% had alcohol dependence; 34% had drug dependence; 26%
had anxiety disorder; 15% had affective disorder; 15% had schizophrenic
disorder and 67% had more than one diagnosis (Langle 2005)


Doneeeee
 
More often than not.

Tubingen: a census of all homeless men: 73% had at least one psychiatric
disorder;
74% had alcohol dependence; 34% had drug dependence; 26%
had anxiety disorder; 15% had affective disorder; 15% had schizophrenic
disorder and 67% had more than one diagnosis (Langle 2005
Hrm
I have a slight issue with "homeless" not necessarily matching those other three categories in those terms.

I also wonder how close the UK's bum population matches the US's
 
Just to answer your curiosity Asa:

United Kingdom

The UK has one of the highest levels of homelessness in Europe with more than 4 people per 1,000 estimated to be homeless
Source: Homeless Pages, 2004.

USA

Estimated homeless figures in the United States range from 600,000 to 2.5 million


US ones less helpful. But then it's impossible to get real numbers.