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Discussion in 'useless chatter' started by water, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. That doesn't mean they want to go to jail.
     
  2. Surely imitating black people is a definite sign of wanting to go to jail. And be poor. And have less per capita spent on your education.
     
  3. We spent billions on our inner city schools, lots more than our suburbs where I live.

    End result was we wasted billions, the inner city schools lost their accreditation, and the suburban schools have done extremely well on a lot less money.

    It's most definitely a cultural thing.
     
  4. guessing "billions" is an exageration
     
  5. Two billion dollars.

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html

    Interesting read. Started out as a segregation lawsuit basically sueing because of white flight... Ended with a 2 billion judgment and continuing subpar test scores.
     
  6. it is an interesting read, skimmed some but read the conclusions and why
     
  7. Excellent example that expectations with consequences and not simply 'resources' get the job done.
     
  8. Countless inner city youth are not raised (either by direct family or by their peers in lieu of direct family) to value education or school. You cannot fix that without fixing an entire culture's value system. An empty $10 billion school is still empty.
     
  9. fixed.
     
  10. But they are raised. They are not wandering around homeless. They cohabitate either with friends or family. And they mimic the behaviors of those friends and families. An entire culture is simply treading water, and at some point we are going to have to drain the pool and start over. How do you make people care about themselves, though?
     
  11. Shut off the TV and Xbox in the area.
     
  12. Nothing has shown to be a better role model than a parent. Years ago, I suggested to someone at CPS (chicago public schools) that they should pay the parents (not the kids) if the kids get good grades. They can communicate to the students and parents (email/phone/letters home) that there is tutoring available for kids that are struggling in classes. If you just pay the kids (as many at CPS want to do) the kids will always be able to make more $$ selling drugs & alcohol so paying them is useless. But if you pay the parents, they will begrugingly 'parent and guide' instead of just leaving the door to the house open so that their kid 'can learn through their own experience.'
     
  13. Make grades a stipulation for welfare payments.

    Bet the parents pay attention to their kids school work then
     
  14. HAHAHAHAHHA

    You can't tell me that YOU of all people would be for that plan.
     
  15. You can't. And you shouldn't. Poor, un/under employed people are actually needed for a healthy economy.
     
  16. Why?
     
  17. On a human level, that is a terrible argument.
     
  18. Aren't you a cookie cutter Republican?
     
  19. True. That doesn't make it any less of a fact from an economic standpoint.