Ok rap music advocates, explain this to me...

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How is this any kind of a good example to set for kids? Whether those kids be black, white, asian, whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dYr6vrmI8c

Here are the lyrics:

Lyrics to Rich Boy Throw Some Ds

[Intro:]
Zone 4
Get money
New money
It's what you been waiting on

[Chorus: x2]
Rich Boy sellin' crack
Fuck niggas wanna jack
Shit tight no slack
Just bought a Cadillac (THROW SOME D'S ON THAT BITCH!)
Just bought a Cadillac (THROW SOME D'S ON THAT BITCH!)
Just bought a Cadillac

[Verse 1 - Rich Boy:]
Rich Boy sellin' crack fuck niggas wanna jack
Shit tight no slack just bought a Cadillac
Took it to the chop shop
Got the damn top dropped two colored flip flopped
Candy red lollipop
There's hoes in the parking lot
But I still got my glock hot
New money motherfucker don't you see the big knot
Don't you see the big chain
Don't you see the big rims
Wonder who they hatin' on lately
Baby it's him candy paint,
Gator skin seats call me Dun Dee
Up in your hood I'm the one that you wanna be
Haters wish they could feel the wood in my '83
Ridin' with no tint so the motherfuckers know it's me

[Chorus: x2]
Rich Boy sellin' crack
Fuck niggas wanna jack
Shit tight no slack
Just bought a Cadillac (THROW SOME D'S ON THAT BITCH!)
Just bought a Cadillac (THROW SOME D'S ON THAT BITCH!)
Just bought a Cadillac
[ these lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]

[Verse 2 - Polow Da Don:]
I never slip, I never fall,
A lot of hoes give me they numbers but I never call
A real O.G. look at V.I.P. and see a nigga ball
Then after we hit the club baby then I'm gonna hit them draws
I'm gonna break you off (and that's all)
Every freak should have a picture of my dick (on they wall)
Polow be the shit, zone 4 be the click
Yeah this for my dawgs
Yeah gangsters, hustlers, wanksters, busters
(Wait a minute motherfucker)

[Chorus: x2]
Rich Boy sellin' crack
Fuck niggas wanna jack
Shit tight no slack
Just bought a Cadillac (THROW SOME D'S ON THAT BITCH!)
Just bought a Cadillac (THROW SOME D'S ON THAT BITCH!)
Just bought a Cadillac

[Verse 3 - Rich Boy:]
Hit the block on some new 10 thousand dollar wheels
Kinda strange how I feel,
Toucha gator on my wheel
Got peanut butter ice cream
Petter pan seats just gotta
Fresh cut
Now we looking for them freaks
Take her back yella bitch
Make her drop them draws
Imma show you how to ball
Middle finger to the law so fuck them
Niggas tell em' what they wanna do?
Hating on a player 'cause my 'lac skated 22's.
When I pull up imma park right at the front door lean
In my cup got purp in my blunt.
Imma real pimp bitch I ain't playin' like a trick
Just bought a new 'Lac bout to put them
Thangs on that bitch!!!!!

So here is the challenge rap supporters: Explain to me why this is considered "art" and what value it has in our society.
 
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I dislike it heavily as well. There is good rap out there, but silly music like this or any of those other candy rap songs need to die.

It's not helping anyone but the rapper making the millions off of it.
 
By rap music advocates you mean me?

well like any genre of music you have the good shit and the club tunes pop bullshit forced on the masses by the company because they think it's Hot shit.

You and I Both know it's bullshit so why are you even trying to validate the few pophop songs out there as the clear definers of what rap really is?
 
I counter with The GZA from WU tang Clan:

The Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (3X)

Chorus: repeat 2X

Life is a test many quest the universe
And through my research, I felt the joy and the hurt
The first shall be last and the last shall be first
The basic instructions before leaving earth

Verse One:

Knowledge this wisdom, this goes back when I was twelve
I loved doing right but I was trapped in hell
Had mad ideas, sad eyes and tears
Years of fears, but yo my foes couldn't bear
I searched for the truth since my youth
And went to church since birth, but it wasn't worth the loot
that I was paying, plus the praying
I didn't like staying cuz of busy-bodies and dizzy hotties
That the preacher had souped up with lies
Had me cooped up lookin at loot, butt, and thighs
Durin the service, he swallowed up the poor
And after they heard this, they wallowed on the floor
But I ignored, and explored my history that was untold
And watched mysteries unfold
And dropped a jewel like Solomon, but never followed men
cause if you do your brain is more hollow than
Space oblivia, or the abyss
With no trace of trivia, left with the hiss
Does it pay to be deaf, dumb and blind?
From a slave we was kept from the mind
And from the caves he crept from behind
And what he gave, was the sect of the swine
When the bible, it condemned the pig
I don't mean to pull your hems or flip your wigs
But we used to wear a turban, but now we're in the urban
No more wearing beanies and dress like a genie
No hocus pocus cause I focus on the facts
And put it on the tracks and brought it through the wax
I speak on Jacob, it might take up some time
And too much knowledge, it might break up the ryhme
I did it anyway just to wake up the mind
of those who kiss stones or prays on the carpet
Those who sit home, or sell books by the market
Need to chill and get their mind revived
For years religion did nothing but divide
The basic instructions before leaving earth

Chorus

Verse Two:

I strolled through the books of Job to unfold
And open bibles, instead of hoping on revivals
Calling on His name and screaming hallelujah
when he hardly knew ya, that's how the devil's fooled ya
See look into my eyes brethren, that's the lies of a Reverend
Why should you die to go to heaven?
The Earth is already in space, the bible I embrace
A difficult task I had to take
I studied till my eyes was swollen, and only arose when
I found out that we were the chosen
I deal with the truth, and build with the youth
And teach my son as he kneels on the stoop
Son, life is a pool of sin, corrupted wth foolish men
and women with wicked minds, who build picket signs
to legalize abortion, the evil eye distortion
I quiz Son with my wisdom
Before I converted, I was perverted, and knowledge was asserted
The study of wisdom, I perferred it
The understanding, it gave me mental freedom
I even learnt Caucasians were really the Tribe of Edam
The white image, of Christ, is really Cesare Borgia
and uhh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The Sixth of Rome, and once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome
I prophesized to save a man, but no one gave a damn
for my nation - the seed of Abraham
Blessed with the tongue of Hebrew
Now we're strung on needles, and some are plungin evils
So study and be wise in these days of darkness
Peace to my nephew Marcus

The basic instructions before leaving earth

Chorus: repeat to fade
 
By rap music advocates you mean me?

well like any genre of music you have the good shit and the club tunes pop bullshit forced on the masses by the company because they think it's Hot shit.

You and I Both know it's bullshit so why are you even trying to validate the few pophop songs out there as the clear definers of what rap really is?

You know what your problem is? You don't actually debate, you just throw a knock-out logic punch in the first post. :D

I guess I more don't understand why people insist on still promoting and producing this kind of material. What does it offer people? Why does anyone like it?
 
You know what your problem is? You don't actually debate, you just throw a knock-out logic punch in the first post. :D

I guess I more don't understand why people insist on still promoting and producing this kind of material. What does it offer people? Why does anyone like it?

maybe they hate you?

and i really want you to think about this statement and all that it implies.
 
You know what your problem is? You don't actually debate, you just throw a knock-out logic punch in the first post. :D

I guess I more don't understand why people insist on still promoting and producing this kind of material. What does it offer people? Why does anyone like it?
For the same damn reason why we have shit like ann nicole and paris hilton along with america's top model and I love new york. Because the vast majority of people are stupid and sheep and will listen to what ever you want them too.

as to what it ofers people. that is simple..a beat they can dance to or sing karaoke too.

and I'm used to short succinct posts as today's majority of posts on forums are filled with self righteous drivel. :D