Food Monsanto tested GMO wheat 8 years ago and destroyed it. Just found some in Oregon.

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/20...wheat-found-in-oregon-field-howd-it-get-there

A farmer in Oregon has found some genetically engineered wheat growing on his land. It's an unwelcome surprise, because this type of wheat has never been approved for commercial planting.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture says it's investigating, trying to find out how this wheat got there. The USDA says there's no risk to public health, but wheat exporters are worried about how their customers in Asia and Europe will react.

In fact, worry about export markets is the main reason why genetically engineered wheat isn't on the market in the first place.

The biotech company Monsanto did create varieties of wheat that tolerate the weedkiller glyphosate, or Roundup — just as it created "Roundup Ready" corn, soybeans, cotton and canola. It also carried out field trials of this wheat in 16 different states.

But the country's wheat growers told the company that they did not want it.

"We are not in favor of commercializing any biotech trait unless it's gone through regulatory approvals in the U.S. and in other countries," says Steve Mercer, vice president of communications for U.S. Wheat Associates. Many countries, including some that import wheat from the U.S., are quite hostile to genetically engineered crops.

Monsanto dropped the wheat project. It never asked for government approval, and it ended its field trials of wheat in 2005.

Fast forward eight years. About a month ago, a farmer in eastern Oregon noticed some wheat plants growing where he didn't expect them, and they didn't die when he sprayed them with Roundup.

The farmer sent samples of these curious plants to Carol Mallory-Smith, a scientist at Oregon State University who has investigated other cases in which genetically engineered crops spread beyond their approved boundaries.

She found that this wheat was, in fact, genetically engineered. She passed samples on to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which confirmed her results.

Bernadette Juarez, an official with the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, said in a statement that her agency is collecting more samples from the farm, conducting more tests. "We have a team of dedicated investigators working on the ground daily to figure out what's going on here," she says.

Nobody knows how this wheat got to this farm. Monsanto's last field trials in Oregon were in 2001. After all such trials, the genetically engineered crops are supposed to be completely removed.

Also, nobody knows how widely this genetically engineered wheat has spread, and whether it's been in fields of wheat that were harvested for food.

According to the USDA, even if it has, there's no danger to public health.
Still, if further tests show that this unapproved wheat has spread into the food supply, it could play havoc with wheat sales.

In 2006, traces of genetically engineered rice — also unapproved — were discovered in large parts of the American rice harvest. That discovery shut down America's rice exports to some countries. Exporters lost millions of dollars. The wheat harvest is much bigger.

Steve Mercer, from U.S. Wheat Associates, says there's no indication that this will happen to wheat. Right now, it's just a few isolated plants growing in eastern Oregon.

"We're in the process of getting in touch with all of our customers," he says. "We are going to work to make sure that they have all the information that they need to make their decisions, and reassure them that this isolated trait hasn't entered commerce."

So far, he says, those customers aren't making any decisions. They're just asking for more information.

Oops. W2G Monsanto.
 

Domon

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I have no problem with responsible, scientific GMO.

Monsanto are a bunch of dicks though, and the problem is more related to their ethics and business practices than the science behind it.
 

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I'm surprised Monsato didn't sue the fuck out of the farmer, like they did with Percy Schmeiser.
 

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I'm surprised Monsato didn't sue the fuck out of the farmer, like they did with Percy Schmeiser.

I think they're backing off from that approach. They were taking a shellacking in the court of public opinion.
 

gee

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I think they're backing off from that approach. They were taking a shellacking in the court of public opinion.
I dunno - unless you're a farmer, you can't really boycott them, so public opinion really means jack shit to their operations.

When you buy corn/flour/whatever at the supermarket, you've got no way of finding out the origin of the crops or what they were fertilized/sprayed with.
 

JAXvillain

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I dunno - unless you're a farmer, you can't really boycott them, so public opinion really means jack shit to their operations.

When you buy corn/flour/whatever at the supermarket, you've got no way of finding out the origin of the crops or what they were fertilized/sprayed with.

The were approaching ENRON like super villain status for a minute there. There is a point where as a company you probably realize you need to pull back the reigns a bit or go full ENRON.
 

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I'm glad you guys seem to echo my feelings that Monsanto and GMO are not synonymous. I have some retard friends who are very vocal and can't tell the difference.
 

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unfortunately, they are synonymous in a business sense to some degree. They own (quite literally, a stranglehold) an absolutely enormous portion of the market.
 

Domon

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this GMO nonsense is the next autism-vaccine bullshit.

How long before someone kills their kid by refusing to feed them what they think are "evil foods" or something
 

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unfortunately, they are synonymous in a business sense to some degree. They own (quite literally, a stranglehold) an absolutely enormous portion of the market.

We've been doing GMO since the beginning of time. Just not this aggressively or scientifically. Do we call purebred dogs GMO dogs?

I say so long as we can't feed everyone, we shouldn't be burning crops because they may cause an outside chance of cancer. What's worse than cancer? Starving to death.
 

Domon

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We've been doing GMO since the beginning of time. Just not this aggressively or scientifically. Do we call purebred dogs GMO dogs?

I say so long as we can't feed everyone, we shouldn't be burning crops because they may cause an outside chance of cancer. What's worse than cancer? Starving to death.

hybridization is not the same thing as GMO. You're on the far opposing side of the argument, which is equally dumb.
 

Casper

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hybridization is not the same thing as GMO. You're on the far opposing side of the argument, which is equally dumb.

We've been modifying genomes of species through selection for quite awhile.

What else do I believe?
 

gee

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Conspiracy theory: the "March against Monsato" was actually organized by Monsato to make their critics look like a herd of uninformed fools just looking for a cause.
 

Domon

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but all of those things are naturally compatible. They are close enough genetically, that you end up with best traits of both, without downsides of either.

With monsanto, traits are slapped in without consideration of potential conflicts and downsides, that would not be possible without synthetic means, or sometimes (the monsanto way) specifically bred with negative traits such as the inability to reproduce.
 
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Casper

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I think you're wrong. Monsanto selected many of those traits considering quite a bit. Inability to reproduce is good for their profits. Ultimately, that's what they are concerned about.

I don't think you'll find many who say that Monsanto provides a benefit to the world. They don't. The technology and patents could though.
 

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I think you're wrong. Monsanto selected many of those traits considering quite a bit. Inability to reproduce is good for their profits. Ultimately, that's what they are concerned about.

I don't think you'll find many who say that Monsanto provides a benefit to the world. They don't. The technology and patents could though.

It is good for their profits. Its bad for the world as a whole, when something unexpected happens (cross-pollination, etc) and non-fertility starts to "infect" other fields, ruining livelyhoods and in the grand scheme potentially causing an epidemic.
 

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It is good for their profits. Its bad for the world as a whole, when something unexpected happens (cross-pollination, etc) and non-fertility starts to "infect" other fields, ruining livelyhoods and in the grand scheme potentially causing an epidemic.

So do you hate GMOs or Monsanto?