Hilary Clinton running for President

In my opinion, yes. When you sign the papers you agree to go to war. Ultimately it was his decision that affected her life, not the President's. Bush did not pick Flop's name out of a hat and decide to send him specifically. Flop could have chosen a job where he'd sit at a desk at MacDill his entire career. I mean no disrespect to Dharma (because I target all of that toward beerad :fly: ) but I still don't see the justification in believing that the President's decisions had a direct effect on her life.


That being said there are many, many people whose lives have certainly been affected by Bush's decisions. Jose Padilla was held without charge for three years because Bush created the term "enemy combatant" and declared them free of protections granted by both the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions. Many lives were directly affected by Bush's approval of warrantless wiretapping. Mane lives were directly affected by his approval of many other things but I doubt anyone's life here was changed by those.

I'm really not in the mood to run around in circles on this. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Let us now talk of the flatness of April's tittahs.
 
Who taught you how to argue? When you're on one side of the table you don't give the opposing side fuel for the fire!

:p

I was wondering if anyone was going to bring those into the equation.

Mike isn't on Bush's side.
 
Who taught you how to argue? When you're on one side of the table you don't give the opposing side fuel for the fire!

:p

I was wondering if anyone was going to bring those into the equation.

ok I confess, my name is not mike










































it's john kerry ^_^ :flips:







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In my opinion, yes. When you sign the papers you agree to go to war. Ultimately it was his decision that affected her life, not the President's. Bush did not pick Flop's name out of a hat and decide to send him specifically. Flop could have chosen a job where he'd sit at a desk at MacDill his entire career. I mean no disrespect to Dharma (because I target all of that toward beerad :fly: ) but I still don't see the justification in believing that the President's decisions had a direct effect on her life.


That being said there are many, many people whose lives have certainly been affected by Bush's decisions. Jose Padilla was held without charge for three years because Bush created the term "enemy combatant" and declared them free of protections granted by both the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions. Many lives were directly affected by Bush's approval of warrantless wiretapping. Mane lives were directly affected by his approval of many other things but I doubt anyone's life here was changed by those.

President Bush held a gun to my head and made me give him a rusty trombone. That and my real name is actually Jose Padilla.
 

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You guys asked me a simple question and I gave you a simple answer. You asked me what has changed because of Bush in my life and I told you. If we were not fighting a war in Iraq right now I wouldnt be worried about my friends. Speaking for someone who was in both Afghan and Iraq, Afghan aint shit compared to Iraq.

Afghanistan aint shit compared to Iraq? :lol:

You'd know I'm sure.

Btw it's the same cousin who was in both the invasion of Afghanistan AND then posted to Iraq. I'd really love to see you, face to face, tell him that one was worse in some way than the other, esp him being a combat medic.

The point is you dont HAVE to join the military fucktard. You do it because you want to. You sign up, to do the bidding of the executive branch, no matter who they are, for some money because you like doing it.
 
Afghanistan aint shit compared to Iraq? :lol:

You'd know I'm sure.

Btw it's the same cousin who was in both the invasion of Afghanistan AND then posted to Iraq. I'd really love to see you, face to face, tell him that one was worse in some way than the other, esp him being a combat medic.

The point is you dont HAVE to join the military fucktard. You do it because you want to. You sign up, to do the bidding of the executive branch, no matter who they are, for some money because you like doing it.

Tell that to Cindy Sheehan... grrrrrrrrrrr
 
Afghanistan aint shit compared to Iraq? :lol:

You'd know I'm sure.

Btw it's the same cousin who was in both the invasion of Afghanistan AND then posted to Iraq. I'd really love to see you, face to face, tell him that one was worse in some way than the other, esp him being a combat medic.

The point is you dont HAVE to join the military fucktard. You do it because you want to. You sign up, to do the bidding of the executive branch, no matter who they are, for some money because you like doing it.

actually it's supposed to be the bidding of Congress...that's why they're the only ones legally allowed to declare war


unless it's a war on drugs, terror or poverty :eek:
 
Afghanistan aint shit compared to Iraq? :lol:

You'd know I'm sure.

Btw it's the same cousin who was in both the invasion of Afghanistan AND then posted to Iraq. I'd really love to see you, face to face, tell him that one was worse in some way than the other, esp him being a combat medic.

The point is you dont HAVE to join the military fucktard. You do it because you want to. You sign up, to do the bidding of the executive branch, no matter who they are, for some money because you like doing it.

I have heard on numerous occasions that Afghan is nothing compared to Iraq. Not just from one person but from multiple. If you think of it logically your fearless leader and god Bush would be doing the same to it as Iraq if it was as bad. Wait and I must be reading that wrong, who is the combat medic? I am sure putting somebodies leg back on anywhere is just as bad. But as for constant violence and fighting Iraq is much worse than Afghan so I have heard. I dont know the death ratio but I also assume more have died in Iraq?
 
I have heard on numerous occasions that Afghan is nothing compared to Iraq. Not just from one person but from multiple. If you think of it logically your fearless leader and god Bush would be doing the same to it as Iraq if it was as bad. Wait and I must be reading that wrong, who is the combat medic? I am sure putting somebodies leg back on anywhere is just as bad. But as for constant violence and fighting Iraq is much worse than Afghan so I have heard. I dont know the death ratio but I also assume more have died in Iraq?

Like Dick Marcinko says, the intensity of combat is directly related to the piece of dirt you're standing on. There are guys in Afghanistan that have endured more combat in a single month than guys in Iraq have endured during an entire tour. It all depends on where one is and what one is supposed to be doing. On a grand scale the overall amount of combat in each country may be vastly different but that doesn't mean that everyone in Iraq is dealing with more crap than everyone in Afghanistan.
 
I have heard on numerous occasions that Afghan is nothing compared to Iraq. Not just from one person but from multiple. If you think of it logically your fearless leader and god Bush would be doing the same to it as Iraq if it was as bad. Wait and I must be reading that wrong, who is the combat medic? I am sure putting somebodies leg back on anywhere is just as bad. But as for constant violence and fighting Iraq is much worse than Afghan so I have heard. I dont know the death ratio but I also assume more have died in Iraq?


They're two different wars and there is some definite disparity. Afghan is more of a "rural" war so to speak, and Iraq is more urban. But violence and death are pretty much the same regardless where you go. It certainly does help to have extensive media coverage and multiple insurgent-shielding population centers to influence one's opinions, and those categories are owned by Iraq. According to the AP over 36,000 Iraqi civilians were killed last year. I'm pretty sure Afghanistan doesn't come close to that.

I think of Afghanistan as more of a 'special forces' type war, and Iraq as an 'armed forces' war, ie a full-blown military engagement. I think most people have that view. I couldn't tell you if that's accurate though since my boots aren't personally on the ground, but the numerous books I've read about both really aren't that different. Soldiers fighting and dying, horrifying friendly fire incidents, bombs, death, etc. War is war.

Anyway, I know what you're saying.
 
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