GAY Good news for Duke!

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Well, not Duke, directly, but it's good news because he is right in saying I only post bad. So here you go!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-dr-cindi-love/the-lutheran-church-embra_b_543142.html

After twenty-five years of deliberation, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) Church Council has abolished its anti-gay policies, effective immediately. Following from discussions at the ELCA Churchwide Assembly last summer, the ELCA will now allow people in same-sex relationships to serve as rostered leaders. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBTQ) human beings are no longer considered abominations but blessed church members with full standing. Same-sex partners and families can now fully participate in the ELCA Pension Plan.

Best of all, the ELCA is reinstating people who were removed from ministry positions because they were truthful and came out of the closet, as well as those who conducted holy unions for non-heterosexual couples. The ELCA has practiced restorative justice.
So not only will it be more inclusive, it will be retroactively enforce inclusion, giving people that were ousted before their old job back.

Can you imagine what this would mean if the Catholic church did this? I might not have bad news to write about :(
 

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I thought "queer" just meant generally gay, how is it its own category?
Sometimes the Q meant Questioning, but now with the advent of Marc Urie's statement classifying himself as queer (really bi but not expressing it loudly), queer is the new hotness in sexual expression.

Queer generically means alternative lifestyle, complete with sometimes sex with women, sometimes sex with men, but just loving by the mood you are in.
 

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Yes because the Catholics are way more outspoken about this than Southern Baptists (Westboro Baptist Church ring a bell?)
No, I was thinking the sheer numbers, not the volume they use. If there are 1 billion Catholics, 1/6 of the world's population, and the pope decreed that being homosexual was not a bad thing but even a positive thing to accept and to be more inclusive and therefore be closer to God, I think a lot of changes would happen real quick as well as real change in the long run. The social stigma of 1/6 of the world's population telling you that you are a beast would extinguish all sorts of issues and bring people together. Gays wouldn't have to hide in the priesthood or take vows of celibacy in shame of who they are as a type of repair mechanism, but instead lead full lives of self awareness and pride.
 

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No, I was thinking the sheer numbers, not the volume they use. If there are 1 billion Catholics, 1/6 of the world's population, and the pope decreed that being homosexual was not a bad thing but even a positive thing to accept and to be more inclusive and therefore be closer to God, I think a lot of changes would happen real quick as well as real change in the long run. The social stigma of 1/6 of the world's population telling you that you are a beast would extinguish all sorts of issues and bring people together. Gays wouldn't have to hide in the priesthood or take vows of celibacy in shame of who they are as a type of repair mechanism, but instead lead full lives of self awareness and pride.
Gay priests would still have to take a vow of celibacy
 

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Gay priests would still have to take a vow of celibacy
This is true. But some wouldn't even enter priesthood to cure themselves if would accept themselves first. You would get priests that really wanted to be there.