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also high security areas tend to have physical security

Have you ever been to the Pentagon? I drive past the building every day. I actually drive past the side that was hit ever day. There are cameras everywhere, and yes there are Pentagon police everywhere also. Don't give me this half baked bullshit about the pentagon not having cameras because they have physical security. You are just spouting off useless random bullshit.
 
Have you ever been to the Pentagon? I drive past the building every day. I actually drive past the side that was hit ever day. There are cameras everywhere, and yes there are Pentagon police everywhere also. Don't give me this half baked bullshit about the pentagon not having cameras because they have physical security. You are just spouting off useless random bullshit.

You aren't wrong. There are cameras everywhere down there plus the security guards and lord knows what else. I've been in the building before and was shocked by how tight things were there, and I was just there for someone's retirement party. You are also right about recordings being elsewhere, not at the site of the physical camera, and I'm willing to bet it is redundant as well.
 
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Have you ever been to the Pentagon? I drive past the building every day. I actually drive past the side that was hit ever day. There are cameras everywhere, and yes there are Pentagon police everywhere also. Don't give me this half baked bullshit about the pentagon not having cameras because they have physical security. You are just spouting off useless random bullshit.
I've worked at military installations, actually guarding shit. Quite a few don't even have a camera on the gate "because we've got guards", but the parking lots will covered so they can mail out tickets. Walking around making sure doors are locked is 90% of physical security for the US government. It wouldn't surprise me that the Pentagon would be the same as any other DoD facility, especially BEFORE 9/11.
 
I've worked at military installations, actually guarding shit. Quite a few don't even have a camera on the gate "because we've got guards", but the parking lots will covered so they can mail out tickets. Walking around making sure doors are locked is 90% of physical security for the US government. It wouldn't surprise me that the Pentagon would be the same as any other DoD facility, especially BEFORE 9/11.

No cameras at the Pentagon? Listen to yourself fool. The only camera footage they released was a CAMERA ON THE GATE. And you call me dumb. Fuck.
 
I've worked in Security for my government for a number of years. We had our cameras on areas which covered other property all the time. We had on numerous occasions, the Metro Police and the Secret Service use our tapes for incidents that had happened not on or property.

Also, cameras being taken out doesn't matter. You could have had a plane fly nose first into a camera and still be able to retrieve the footage as the recording system in not normally into the same location as the camera. You should know this.

You either have not looked into this subject all that much, or you are purposely leaving out thing that weigh heavily on what you have just said. The FBI confiscated a lot of cameras right after the impact at the Pentagon.

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I've worked at military installations, actually guarding shit. Quite a few don't even have a camera on the gate "because we've got guards", but the parking lots will covered so they can mail out tickets. Walking around making sure doors are locked is 90% of physical security for the US government. It wouldn't surprise me that the Pentagon would be the same as any other DoD facility, especially BEFORE 9/11.

I get the feeling that whatever jobs you've done don't really hold a candle to the amount of security in and around intelligence and military facilities in the DC area. Be prepared to be surprised because that's not the Pentagon before or after 2001. It's parking lots are not covered, which you can easily see on a satellite photo of the place. There are security cameras from the time you get off at that exit all the way up to any entrance to that building. There's cameras and security in case of foot traffic since US Route 1 is right there and there is often a lot of random foot traffic on that road. There's traffic cameras because of the horrendous backups that happen right around there every single day, which is incidentally why there were so many eye witnesses (they were all stuck in a traffic jam!). Inside the building is even more interesting. There's security from the time you get off the metro at the underground stop. If you are going into the building without credentials you must have an escort. You are told you will be recorded. You are interviewed and sent through a metal detector. Mind you, I haven't been to this building since 2001. Locked doors are not uncommon, but that's certainly not the largest level of security they have there. NSA is much the same way, and they've only stepped it up since 2001, just like everywhere else in the DC area. Now you get to go through a security check on your way into the Smithsonian, where they also have cameras everywhere, and this is a friggin museum, not the seat of power for our nation's defense. It certainly isn't like any random military base I've ever been to, which btw has had more security than what you are describing.
 
I've worked extremely high level Intel sites my entire adult life and outside of a camera watching at the front 99% don't have any other external cameras because they rely o physical security. Prior to 9/11 90% of military locations were open with no security. You could drive through any Army base with no gate at all. They have zero internal cameras because they aren't allowed to. Trust me prior to 9/11 there wasn't crap at most places including the Pentagon. All you needed at most sites was a sticker on your window and a smile.
 
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I've worked at military installations, actually guarding shit. Quite a few don't even have a camera on the gate "because we've got guards", but the parking lots will covered so they can mail out tickets. Walking around making sure doors are locked is 90% of physical security for the US government. It wouldn't surprise me that the Pentagon would be the same as any other DoD facility, especially BEFORE 9/11.

you're kidding with this right?

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People who believe this crap was rigged or the NOLA levees were blown up etc etc are fucking idiots and should lose your right to reproduce. You don't listen when people who worked there and places much more secure than thy place tell you something.
 
I've worked extremely high level Intel sites my entire adult life and outside of a camera watching at the front 99% don't have any other external cameras because they rely o physical security. Prior to 9/11 90% of military locations were open with no security. You could drive through any Army base with no gate at all. They have zero internal cameras because they aren't allowed to. Trust me prior to 9/11 there wasn't crap at most places including the Pentagon. All you needed at most sites was a sticker on your window and a smile.

But there was a camera on the gate. Obviously the pentagon has camera security on place.

Also, what about the FBI confiscating cameras from hotel security near the pentagon? Does this not sound even a little strange?

I know the thought of the official story not being true is a scary and unwanted. But I'm sure you understand and can appreciate an open and objective thought process on this subject.
 
People who believe this crap was rigged or the NOLA levees were blown up etc etc are fucking idiots and should lose your right to reproduce. You don't listen when people who worked there and places much more secure than thy place tell you something.

I'm in no way saying the US government is behind the attacks on 9/11. If anything I'm advocating that everyone remove any preconceived blame they've put on anyone, and just look at all the data for themselves and continue to ask questions. Anyone claiming to know exactly who is to blame for these attacks is just down right foolish.
 
I'm not saying that I think this crap was rigged, I'm saying it would be a lot easier to swallow the 'official' story if there was some level of transparency going on here. The fact that people have asked these questions and the answers have all been along the lines of "we can't say" or "we won't say" kinda sucks. If it is as they say, why don't they release all the information they have since we know they have it? Wouldn't that offer some level of consolation to the people that lost their family members that day, not to mention all the rest of the people who were traumatized by it all? We see planes flying into the World Trade Towers over and over again and then we see the buildings collapsing and people running for their lives over and over again. We see footage of people throwing themselves from those buildings over and over again. Yet all we get of the over 80 confiscated video tapes from the pentagon area is 5 frames? What's up with that? I find it hard to believe that's all the video footage of this that there is. I'm pretty positive it was the plane that they said it was that hit the building, so why all the secrecy?
 
But there was a camera on the gate. Obviously the pentagon has camera security on place.

Also, what about the FBI confiscating cameras from hotel security near the pentagon? Does this not sound even a little strange?

I know the thought of the official story not being true is a scary and unwanted. But I'm sure you understand and can appreciate an open and objective thought process on this subject.

The FBI and police confiscate video from businesses all the time. Thats who they solve half of the crimes here in Denver especially the police beatings.