Thread Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011

I'd be interested in seeing ones that show an increase in spending.

Well, you see, it depends on how much you want to take into account. Unemployment payments? New cases of people needing aid because of loss of job? Time and effort to enforce the new laws? Creating an agency to handle licensing?

The reason I've seen both is because I've seen what the people who want to block this have to say. It's not all about people being puritanical and believing drugs are bad mmmkay. Most of the reasons are purely financial and a little bit political just like everything else.
 
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I agree but I think unless it is specifically written into the law to pardon all criminals of that specific crime, they don't get out. I think the theory is that at the time they committed the crime, they knew it was illegal so that shows them to be of questionable character and they need rehabilitation for that. Then you have to consider who gets out. The violent criminals or just the poor schmuck who got caught with an eighth for the the 3rd time or both? I think it becomes complicated and nobody wants to touch it. I also think it's terribly unfair.
The federal government is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article 1 section 9 of the Constitution and the states are prohibited by clause 1 of Article 1 section 10.

Either way, I don't think the marijuana issue will ever be resolved while the baby boomers are alive because the views each side has is just insane. You cannot get anyone from that time period to sit down and do the logical thing. You'll have conservatives going hells no and hippie scum being hells yes and neither one will budge on the issue.
 
A large majority of people in jail for a weed charge were doing something else bad and the weed portion was just tagged on.
 
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Well, you see, it depends on how much you want to take into account. Unemployment payments? New cases of people needing aid because of loss of job? Time and effort to enforce the new laws? Creating an agency to handle licensing?

The reason I've seen both is because I've seen what the people who want to block this have to say. It's not all about people being puritanical and believing drugs are bad mmmkay. Most of the reasons are purely financial and a little bit political just like everything else.

I would just like to see as many as I can.
 
Where do you know this from? Can I see it also?

Give me an example of someone who is in jail for just regular old weed alone. I'm not talking a dealer amount. Almost everyone who is was because they were dealing, or under the influence and driving, or was committing another crime and had it one them..
 
Give me an example of someone who is in jail for just regular old weed alone. I'm not talking a dealer amount. Almost everyone who is was because they were dealing, or under the influence and driving, or was committing another crime and had it one them..

I get it. You plucked those "facts" out of thin air, then put it on me to prove you wrong.
 
I get it. You plucked those "facts" out of thin air, then put it on me to prove you wrong.
Most states (except NY and NC) simple possession of marijuana isn't even a felony, usually it's a fine.

This is closest thing I could find to a statistic. It includes possession with intent to sell and it lumps all drugs together though. Still less people than for alcohol offenses.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/dcf/correct.cfm
 
The problem is that it is hard to get these statistics especially since laws vary so widely from state to state. For example, possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana is just a possession charge in Ohio, but here in Maryland that is considered possession with intent to distribute (anything over 28 grams is in Maryland). Some states have medical marijuana laws while others don't. Some states have 3 strikes and you're out laws, like here in Maryland. If you are arrested for possession of marijuana and it is your third arrest for that crime, your sentence will be $3000 in fines and up to 3 years in jail, but no less than 1 year in jail. With laws like that it's not hard to imagine that there are some unlucky folks sitting in jail for simple possession of marijuana. I do doubt it is the overwhelming majority though. You gotta be talented to get arrested for simple possession that often.
 
Most states (except NY and NC) simple possession of marijuana isn't even a felony, usually it's a fine.

This is closest thing I could find to a statistic. It includes possession with intent to sell and it lumps all drugs together though. Still less people than for alcohol offenses.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/dcf/correct.cfm

Thanks for at least producing something. Though it gives an idea, it really doesn't show enough detail to educate me on how many people are in jail or have been in jail for possession of marijuana.