Ontopic Elementary school shooting

Let's suppose video games were partly to blame for this. Guns too. We'll throw in heavy metal music just to round it out. Maybe porn. I don't know. Do we want to live in the kind of society where they ban everything that could possibly influence someone crazy to do something illegal? I don't.

No. But just the same, if you know someone is a bully, they don't need to be encouraged to be a better bully or left to spend hours practicing on a bully simulator getting better at it.

While we all know accidents happen, there's got to be healthy outlets for aggressive behavior.
 
Let's suppose video games were partly to blame for this. Guns too. We'll throw in heavy metal music just to round it out. Maybe porn. I don't know. Do we want to live in the kind of society where they ban everything that could possibly influence someone crazy to do something illegal? I don't.

Let's not forget Spongebob.

That's the kind of thing that drives people to do very bad things.
 
Let's suppose video games were partly to blame for this. Guns too. We'll throw in heavy metal music just to round it out. Maybe porn. I don't know. Do we want to live in the kind of society where they ban everything that could possibly influence someone crazy to do something illegal? I don't.

no, but understanding of the factors can help treat someone if we catch this type of violent personality early enough

guns though are not just an influence but a tool for the crime itself... completely different equartion
 
No. But just the same, if you know someone is a bully, they don't need to be encouraged to be a better bully or left to spend hours practicing on a bully simulator getting better at it.

While we all know accidents happen, there's got to be healthy outlets for aggressive behavior.

I'm sure there are. But who do we hold accountable for the bully's behavior if not the bully? Shall we start putting parents in jail more aggressively if they don't take care of their children the way you would want them to?

no, but understanding of the factors can help treat someone if we catch this type of violent personality early enough

guns though are not just an influence but a tool for the crime itself... completely different equartion

You could argue that video games were a tool in the equartion too since he probably got some "training" from playing them.

It just drives me to change the channel.

I hate changing the channel. I'm gonna go shoot up a school.
 
I'm sure there are. But who do we hold accountable for the bully's behavior if not the bully? Shall we start putting parents in jail more aggressively if they don't take care of their children the way you would want them to?
at the end of the day, over 18= they're responsible.
Under 18, parents should teach their own kids to watch out for wacko's & stay away. If you think about it, for the most part, people (read parents) have been able to look at someone elses actions & been able to conclude, "yeah, there's something not quite right about that person." and encourage their kids to look elsewhere. If society as a whole can spot it (there were a lot of people saying Lanza was a problem waiting to happen), Parents & schools need to help guide these kids better.
 
I'm sure there are. But who do we hold accountable for the bully's behavior if not the bully? Shall we start putting parents in jail more aggressively if they don't take care of their children the way you would want them to?



You could argue that video games were a tool in the equartion too since he probably got some "training" from playing them.



I hate changing the channel. I'm gonna go shoot up a school.

that would be an idiotic argument
 
NY to reverse ban on magazine size in gun law


Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday the state is not rolling back the nation's most stringent gun control measure by keeping 10-bullet magazines legal, even though they would have been outlawed in a bill that passed earlier this year.

Cuomo and legislative leaders in state budget talks plan to change the law that was passed in January before a provision kicks in banning the sale of 10-bullet magazines. The gun measure outlaws the purchase of any magazines that carry more than seven bullets, the nation's most stringent limit. That would have put a severe limit on the sale of guns with industry standard 10-bullet magazines when the provision of the law went onto effect on April 15.

"There is no such thing as a seven-bullet magazine. That doesn't exist, so you really have no practical option," Cuomo said. He told reporters that any suggestion this will be a rollback of the law is "wholly without basis."

Cuomo said the state needs to allow the sale of handguns and rifles with 10-shot magazines, but New Yorkers will still be required to keep no more than seven bullets in them, except at shooting ranges and competitions. Violating the seven-bullet limit is a misdemeanor, but a violation if the magazine was in the owner's home.

He says the law is still enforceable. The law was the first gun control measure passed in the nation after the December shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., beating release of the Obama administration's proposal by a day.

Cuomo minimized the cleanup now needed in the bill as addressing "ambiguities" and "grammatical errors" and routine for complex measures. They include exempting police and their weapons and allowing Hollywood to continue to film violent movies and TV shows in New York using weapons outlawed under his measure.

Tom King, president of the New York Rifle & Pistol Association, said the move will affect gun sellers, but does nothing for the gun owner.

He says the group plans to file a lawsuit this week to overturn the gun law, which also banned sales of some formerly legal semi-automatic firearms and requires federal background checks for private gun sales.

Although Cuomo said Wednesday that the gun bill was developed over months within his administration, it was rushed to a vote in the Legislature after closed-door negotiations on Jan. 15. Cuomo issued an order approved by the Legislature that suspends the three days' public review of all bills under the constitution.
 
We can't even trust the military to be responsible with guns. Lol, "let's arm the populace to the teeth!"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/virginia-quantico-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

equally nonsensical:

We can't even trust . . .

anyone with anything because someone won't obey.


OUTLAW EVERYTHING!

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The guns, the video games, all a means to an end.

The end? Being famous. Easiest way to be famous in our fucked up society? Kill a bunch of kids. This is the issue, not the tools used to accomplish it.

Nobody in the mass media wants to point to themselves though, pointing at guns or video games gives them talking points to drone on for hours and hours... massive conflict of interest.