Election interest

Not with a Republican President they won't silly! GRIDLOCK++

BTW, was is a Replubican or Democrat that got us into both WWII and Vietnam? I forget. :D

"Was is"

No one even knows the point you are trying to make.
 
Oh, and I cant vote. We had to be registered by August 25th and I didnt know that. Im not even sure if I was here then.
 
I'll vote green party when I feel the candidate is more beneficial than what the mainstream parties can bring to the table - it's a shame more people don't research the independent candidates - and although it has never kept me from voting for somone from the independent party, I do get a sense that I'm essentially 'throwing my vote away' when I pick one, simply because they are rarely the vote getter and almost never win

I am a registered Republican, but I can say I've never voted 'all republican' during any given election year

I'll vote green party as soon as they stop being the green party :fly:

I don't think I agree with 98% of their platform
 
BTW, was is a Replubican or Democrat that got us into both WWII and Vietnam? I forget. :D

Technically, both times we were bound by treaty to come to the aid of our allies. WWII we were attacked by the Japanese for fulfilling our obligations to the British and China. Vietnam is an even stickier issue since it was really left over business from WWII. The fighting never really stopped there since the Japanese overthrew the colonial French government during WWII. We had been fulfilling our treaty obligations (money and arms) to help the French win back the area since 1949. Eisenhower was the first to send US troops over there as advisers and he was Republician. Johnson was a Democrat and in office during Gulf of Tonkin, which a lot of people think of as the start of the Vietnam War. It was also shown later that half of that incident was a lie and the other half exaggerated. And if you'd like to know, most (not all) of the mutial defense treaties mentioned above occured when Republicians were in office.
 
"Was is"

No one even knows the point you are trying to make.

I'll PM you some pointers next time, Zach.

Technically, both times we were bound by treaty to come to the aid of our allies. WWII we were attacked by the Japanese for fulfilling our obligations to the British and China. Vietnam is an even stickier issue since it was really left over business from WWII. The fighting never really stopped there since the Japanese overthrew the colonial French government during WWII. We had been fulfilling our treaty obligations (money and arms) to help the French win back the area since 1949. Eisenhower was the first to send US troops over there as advisers and he was Republician. Johnson was a Democrat and in office during Gulf of Tonkin, which a lot of people think of as the start of the Vietnam War. It was also shown later that half of that incident was a lie and the other half exaggerated. And if you'd like to know, most (not all) of the mutial defense treaties mentioned above occured when Republicians were in office.

We can dance all we want, but I think you get my point. Democrats are just as able and willing to defend this country. So much so that there is very little REAL difference between the parties any more.
 
We can dance all we want, but I think you get my point. Democrats are just as able and willing to defend this country. So much so that there is very little REAL difference between the parties any more.

Has it ever occured to you that the Democratic party is far different now than it was then... They openly embrace the points they were fighting against in Vietnam (socialism). So...
 
We can dance all we want, but I think you get my point. Democrats are just as able and willing to defend this country. So much so that there is very little REAL difference between the parties any more.

Dance? Are you fucking high? I just pointed out that your grasp of world politics is thin at best. Now you're just being assine.
 
Strangely. I am in agreement with theac, even though my distinguished colleague is a creepy old guy.

The democratic party is commited to hamstringing domestic and foreign security, in general. It is practically their campaign platform. Cut military spending! Increase aid!

And remember:

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

-Hillary Clinton 7/3/04 New York Post
 
Anyone who has the illusion that they can accurately predict how a political person will act based upon their party affiliation is deluded at best. At worst, they are the common voter and cause all sorts of problems in America.

And if you are going to start taking quotes from people to make a point about republican versus democrat, think about the shit storm you are actually opening up. As nice as it would be if true, stupid isn't monopolized by either party.
 
Anyone who has the illusion that they can accurately predict how a political person will act based upon their party affiliation is deluded at best. At worst, they are the common voter and cause all sorts of problems in America.

And if you are going to start taking quotes from people to make a point about republican versus democrat, think about the shit storm you are actually opening up. As nice as it would be if true, stupid isn't monopolized by either party.
Uh, no but it is representative of their view in general. I mean, it's in their platform. I might also point out I'm from NY, Clinton is the senator from NY... Ohhhhh.
 
So.... my entire post wasn't directed at you. Simply the part about quoting politicians. :)

The rest was just more of my view on why argueing politics is futile and not worth any time. Arguing specific issues can be worthwhile, but not politics in general.

Of course, I'm of the opinion that until I actually form up with a social group and vote with them, then my vote is practically meaningless. Simple fact is that unless you voted for democrats or republicans in the past, odds are you lost. Badly. Since I don't necessarily agree with either party on more than half of the issues that I know of, that means I am basically being forced to chose which half of the issues I'd like to lose on. Not sure how that is worth my time.
 
So.... my entire post wasn't directed at you. Simply the part about quoting politicians. :)

The rest was just more of my view on why argueing politics is futile and not worth any time. Arguing specific issues can be worthwhile, but not politics in general.

Of course, I'm of the opinion that until I actually form up with a social group and vote with them, then my vote is practically meaningless. Simple fact is that unless you voted for democrats or republicans in the past, odds are you lost. Badly. Since I don't necessarily agree with either party on more than half of the issues that I know of, that means I am basically being forced to chose which half of the issues I'd like to lose on. Not sure how that is worth my time.

I agree in red. I never talk about politics. Makes me queasy, even with people that generally agree with me. Most people I either want to beat until they shutup or kill outright. It just isnt good for my health.
 
So.... my entire post wasn't directed at you. Simply the part about quoting politicians. :)

The rest was just more of my view on why argueing politics is futile and not worth any time. Arguing specific issues can be worthwhile, but not politics in general.

Of course, I'm of the opinion that until I actually form up with a social group and vote with them, then my vote is practically meaningless. Simple fact is that unless you voted for democrats or republicans in the past, odds are you lost. Badly. Since I don't necessarily agree with either party on more than half of the issues that I know of, that means I am basically being forced to chose which half of the issues I'd like to lose on. Not sure how that is worth my time.


then you vote for the libertarians or write-ins. there are TONS of write-ins that you can vote for that aren't going to win but gives you a chance to vote. at best, your write-in vote will cancel out someone else's vote, and you've done your part in prevention.