Coqui killed Candy - Beerad and KNYTE sue

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Do a little search and prove me wrong child... I can pull up the numbers for Helen Ellis and Mease if you would like to call them ;)

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Just because I'm feeling particularly sassy today I went ahead and called Helen Ellis & Mease at 727-848-1733 and spoke with a nurse named Ruth in the med unit and another nurse in Behavioral that I didn't get the name of unfortunately. They said they'd never heard of anyone being treated for any kind of ailment (much less FREAKING ALCOHOL DEPENDENCY) by administering beer. However, in your defense Ruth did say that it was not totally unreasonable that under some kind of special circumstance a doctor might prescribe light alcohol consumption on a case basis, but she had never heard of it being done.
 

Did you actually read that article or just frantically search google for something that was somewhat associated?

When I was in residency I would love to hear stories from the "old timers" about how they used to treat severe alcohol withdrawal (delirium tremens) or methanol intoxication by infusing alcohol into the patient. A collector of medical antiques, my father once showed me a prescription for medicinal alcohol from the era of prohibition (though most of these prescriptions had no real medical indications). But these days (the modern era) we treat alcohol withdrawl and methanol poisoning with other (better) medications and as far as I know, ETOH (alcohol) is not an accepted standard treatment for any other disease or condition. So I was stunned (yes, stunned) to come across this story about medicinal alcohol use in Canada.

his complete lack of evidence probably explains why it is extremely rare for an American physician to prescribe medicinal alcohol even though it is still legal to do so in many states. In order to do this in Texas both the physician and the pharmacy must have a permit for medicinal alcohol issued by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission. Before 1940 there were 2 million of these permits issued in the state of Texas. Since the 1960s the number of permits issued to either pharmacies or physicians has totaled exactly zero


They're talking about cases that happened DECADES ago in CANADA. Not in the last 5 years in Florida.

Your "buddy" was never prescribed beer or any kind of alcohol in a hospital unless you buddy is much older than you. Fess up and stop BSing.
 
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Just because I'm feeling particularly sassy today I went ahead and called Helen Ellis & Mease at 727-848-1733 and spoke with a nurse named Ruth in the med unit and another nurse in Behavioral that I didn't get the name of unfortunately. They said they'd never heard of anyone being treated for any kind of ailment (much less FREAKING ALCOHOL DEPENDENCY) by administering beer. However, in your defense Ruth did say that it was not totally unreasonable that under some kind of special circumstance a doctor might prescribe light alcohol consumption on a case basis, but she had never heard of it being done.

What type of nurse/doctor was Ruth?
 
Did you actually read that article or just frantically search google for something that was somewhat associated?






They're talking about cases that happened DECADES ago in CANADA. Not in the last 5 years in Florida.

Your "buddy" was never prescribed beer or any kind of alcohol in a hospital unless you buddy is much older than you. Fess up and stop BSing.

Did you read the other article or just cry about me more? Coqui posted one that was pretty clear about the use of alcohol in US hospitals. I see no article saying they havent used it but I see plenty saying they do... wheres your proof child?
 
Dude, you've been owned. Fess up and eat your crow.

Survey finds many hospitals dispense alcohol to patients

"These days you can't get cigarettes in the hospital if you're a smoker, but you can get alcohol in the hospital if you are an alcoholic," says Robert Swift, M.D., author of the recent report.

by Scott J. Turner

Alcohol may be a drug and a controlled substance, but its use is not always restricted in U.S. hospitals.

Two Brown researchers and colleagues from the University of Louisville found that many hospitals prescribe alcohol for medicinal purposes, particularly to prevent or treat alcohol withdrawal syndrome. Yet “controlled clinical studies have not shown alcohol to be effective for these purposes,” said Robert Swift, M.D., professor of psychiatry and human behavior. Swift is the senior author of a recent report in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

“We conducted this study, because we noticed that patients in general hospitals were receiving beer for the treatment of alcohol withdrawal,” he said. “Beer is a poor treatment for alcohol withdrawal, and one patient involved ended up in the intensive care unit.”

Giving alcohol to patients is not necessarily a bad practice, said Swift, who is an alcohol and addiction specialist. For example, low doses of the drug may lower the incidence of cardiovascular disease for some people.

Still, “I think it is a bad example to give alcohol to alcoholics,” Swift said. “These days you can't get cigarettes in the hospital if you're a smoker, but you can get alcohol in the hospital if you are an alcoholic.”

The researchers surveyed pharmacy directors at the main hospitals affiliated with 122 U.S. medical schools. Ninety-five percent of those surveyed responded. Results showed that 72 percent of hospitals dispensed oral or intravenous alcohol in the previous 12 months.

At some hospitals, alcohol was distributed by the dietary department, not the medical or pharmacy service. Sometimes, beverage alcohol was dispensed by food services without notification of the pharmacy to prevent potential drug interactions. At seven hospitals, patients or family could provide their own alcohol for therapeutic purposes – to prevent alcohol withdrawal syndrome.

Altogether, alcoholic beverages were used for “patient courtesy” at 38 hospitals, sedation at 10, stimulation of appetite at 6, and for other reasons at 25. Beer was dispensed at 53 hospitals, distilled spirits at 31, wine at 25, brandy at 10, and grain alcohol at 7. This alcohol was doled out by the pharmacy at 46 sites and by food services at 15.

Only six sites had a policy that required the pharmacy to notify food services not to dispense alcoholic beverages when patients were prescribed drugs with adverse interactions, said Swift.

The study grew out of a preliminary investigation by the researchers on hospitals in Rhode Island and Kentucky. Published last year, this early study showed widespread “inappropriate administration of alcohol,” Swift said.

One hospital, for instance, provided a celebratory champagne dinner to new mothers, “many of whom might be breast feeding, and alcohol is carried to the newborn in breast milk,” he said. “What is more worrisome is that there was no correlation with the hospital pharmacy. Alcohol might be given to a woman taking medicines for which alcohol is contraindicated.”

Swift is associate chief of staff for research and education, Providence VA Medical Center. The other Brown researcher involved in the study was Susan Wieland, a doctoral student in the Department of Community Health. The study was partially funded by a grant from National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.
 
Did you read the other article or just cry about me more? Coqui posted one that was pretty clear about the use of alcohol in US hospitals. I see no article saying they havent used it but I see plenty saying they do... wheres your proof child?

To be fair, mine was in 2003 and they may have removed that from all hospitals by now too.
 
Was that the hospital your buddy was at?

You can post lame google-found web pages all day long Beerad, that doesn't change the fact that you are just making crap up as usual.
 
I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALCOHOL IS NOT ADMINISTERED IN HOSPITALS.

I'm saying that your personal story about your friend is total bullshit.
 
I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALCOHOL IS NOT ADMINISTERED IN HOSPITALS.

I'm saying that your personal story about your friend is total bullshit.

You always say I am lying, its cute but childish. So they can administer alcohol but I just made this story up cause I felt like lying about something they do? Grow up man
 
You always say I am lying, its cute but childish. So they can administer alcohol but I just made this story up cause I felt like lying about something they do? Grow up man

No, I think you made that story up to sound more interesting than you actually are to a bunch of people who really don't know you or care about your alcoholic buddy.
 
To be fair, mine was in 2003 and they may have removed that from all hospitals by now too.

This was about 4 or 5 years back before I moved in so that could be right.

I dont think he cares about this though, he just wants to try to say I am lying to make himself feel bigger
 
You really do have an inferiority complex dont you?

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Meh, nobody's perfect.
 
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Meh, nobody's perfect.

Congrats... I HAVE met you though :fly:

It is good that your self esteem is high!