Copypasta: Cash for clunkers

That's a load of bullshit :lol: Not only is the average increase in fuel efficiency far below 100% but consumer cars are not the major use for foreign oil and the number of vehicles that actually went through this program is pretty small compared to the number of older vehicles on the road.

And this is on top of the fact that with most of the people who participated in this program at the very least had to have the credit to buy a new car meaning the poorest people who drive the worst cars which have the worst mileage and worst emissions didn't get to participate. Not only that but those perfectly good cars could have been sold to a low income family that could use it to get a better job and bring their family out of relative poverty.

Oh and let's not forget all the fossil fuels used to transport the vehicles to the crusher, crush them, then transport the steel elsewhere. One of those trucks uses far more fuel than was saved by its entire load of clunkers.

Basically, this was one of the most inefficient, counterproductive and wasteful government programs in recent history.
i bet it wouldn't have happened at all if the car companies hadn't been lobbying so hard for it.
 
With the resources and materials it takes to build and ship the batteries in hybrids they have a much larger carbon footprint than an SUV for the first 5 years of their life or something close to that.

I saw a news report on the place that does the smelting for the Prius. There is like a 10 miles radius around the plant that is completely dead of any life at all. The said that NASA does the rover testing there because it's the closest place on earth to the moon or mars.
 
That's a load of bullshit :lol: Not only is the average increase in fuel efficiency far below 100% but consumer cars are not the major use for foreign oil and the number of vehicles that actually went through this program is pretty small compared to the number of older vehicles on the road.

And this is on top of the fact that with most of the people who participated in this program at the very least had to have the credit to buy a new car meaning the poorest people who drive the worst cars which have the worst mileage and worst emissions didn't get to participate. Not only that but those perfectly good cars could have been sold to a low income family that could use it to get a better job and bring their family out of relative poverty.

Oh and let's not forget all the fossil fuels used to transport the vehicles to the crusher, crush them, then transport the steel elsewhere. One of those trucks uses far more fuel than was saved by its entire load of clunkers.

Basically, this was one of the most inefficient, counterproductive and wasteful government programs in recent history.


Thank you!! Or even, GIVEN away.
 
That's a load of bullshit :lol: Not only is the average increase in fuel efficiency far below 100% but consumer cars are not the major use for foreign oil and the number of vehicles that actually went through this program is pretty small compared to the number of older vehicles on the road.

And this is on top of the fact that with most of the people who participated in this program at the very least had to have the credit to buy a new car meaning the poorest people who drive the worst cars which have the worst mileage and worst emissions didn't get to participate. Not only that but those perfectly good cars could have been sold to a low income family that could use it to get a better job and bring their family out of relative poverty.

Oh and let's not forget all the fossil fuels used to transport the vehicles to the crusher, crush them, then transport the steel elsewhere. One of those trucks uses far more fuel than was saved by its entire load of clunkers.

Basically, this was one of the most inefficient, counterproductive and wasteful government programs in recent history.

Might not have been much in the grand scale of things, but it did lessen the demand for foreign oil.

Just because the plan wasn't 100% perfect, doesn't mean it was useless. It was a step in the right direction. And it's not like you all would have gotten the tax money back in your wallet had this program not happened. The money probably would have been spent on something else less productive.
 
Come on. We all know it's not going to bring about world peace and solve every little problem known to man. And we also know it did do some good.