Ok, I still dont see what the big deal is. This product provides absolutely nothing to you, not even pleasure as some people get from cigarettes. It does not make you feel any different like alcohol does and it does not change the taste of your food. You basically dont care that it is trans fat you just dont want the government to stop it?
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You're acting like 5.5% is significant.
Say a monkey weighs 12 pounds... this means that he gained a whopping 0.66 pounds OVER 6 YEARS.
Even the study said that the weight gain was insignificant. Sure it's there but it's so small that it's pointless to consider.
Oh yeah and why I said conspiracy theory earlier is as you clearly pointed out that this is just the first step in their mass plan to steal our rights to eat red meat, haha. That sir is a conspiracy theory!
now consider that monkey's are likely 20x more active than your avg person...that 5.5% is probably more like 20%+ on avg on a human scale
It's cheap. The alternative is not as cheap. My convenience food is now going to cost more.
WTF? 5.5% is 5.5%... you can't form an argument nor a position based on a guestimate of an imaginary number you pulled out of your ass!
seriously now!If you want to translate it in terms of humans... 5.5% weight gain in a 150 pound human is 8.25 pounds over 6 years, which is just over 1 pound a year.
This is not significant.
We cut to many corners to get the worst possible food right now anyways. I mean the meat in Taco Bell comes in powder form
. I would pay the extra couple bucks to get real food from a fast food restaurant. We have let them lower there standards to much and accept the half meat biproduct that comes from it. I am one of these people but that doesnt mean I wouldnt mind a change for the better.
WTF? 5.5% is 5.5%... you can't form an argument nor a position based on a guestimate of an imaginary number you pulled out of your ass!
If you want to translate it in terms of humans... 5.5% weight gain in a 150 pound human is 8.25 pounds over 6 years, which is just over 1 pound a year.
This is not significant.
monkeys are far more active than most humans...the study is incredibly skewed in that regard...AND they STILL gained 5.5% on avg
are you saying you think monkeys aren't more active than the avg human? I'm guessing it's by a large amount too
It provides nothing for me but for someone that enjoys eating fast food it provides them with cheaper foods. It does not matter what kind of pleasure one derives from it because pleasure is a completely 100% subjective ideal. If trans fats got you high you'd feel different about this?
No I don't care that it's trans fats, I care that the government is making decisions for me it has no authority over.
And I'm illustrating a point you keep missing. If people didn't want trans fats in their foods they wouldn't buy it. They know it's there, they know it's bad for them. They keep buying it. It's the same reason people keep shopping at WalMart and Sam's Club despite all the bitching about the Chinese economy and how they treat their workers. People don't give a damn about goods being made in China and the way WalMart workers are treated, they care more about saving three cents on toilet paper.I'm illustrating a point which you keep interpreting literally, dufus
In a free market people vote with their wallets. The almighty dollar is what drives the marketplace and since trans fats are not inherently deadly there is no reason the government should step in. Again, you cannot demand that trans fats be banned because they're unhealthy while you gladly partake in something equally if not more unhealthy.
No, it's not a conspiracy theory. The simple fact is that setting these type of precedents opens the door for things like that to happen. I'm not suggesting this is some grand scheme, I just don't want the option available to the government in the first place.
The FDA's job is to stop that kind of stuff from getting to market in the first place. They failed. Their job is not to keep us from being fat.
I don't know if this is accurate since there is no source listed but if true it shows a clear benefit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fat
It is skewed and makes no sense for them to test it on monkeys but there is no real way to know until tested on humans. Monkey Business, that term has been coined for a reason. If you jump around all over the place being over active and jumping all over things you could easily hear someone calling you a monkey. They are much more active than humans so it should not be comparable in a weight loss/gain study.
I'm saying you're making assumptions and baseless arguments. I'm not going to argue with you that way because we'll just end up pissing each other off and that's really stupid considering there is no factual basis to your allegation.
Right, so we have no studies to show if trans fat does or does not make people fatter. If that's the case, why ban it?