congrats to NYC

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It is so hard to debate a topic with someone who just makes personal attacks with no standpoint on them. You are calling me lazy and less of a man because I agree with the governments decision. That to me makes your entire point that was getting interesting absolutely POINTLESS.
 

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It is so hard to debate a topic with someone who just makes personal attacks with no standpoint on them. You are calling me lazy and less of a man because I agree with the governments decision. That to me makes your entire point that was getting interesting absolutely POINTLESS.

I think you need to be careful with what decisions you allow the government to make for you. If you set the precedent that it's okay to restrict our choices for the greater good, then what situations can evolve from that philosophy in the future, "for the greater good"?

That doesn't even consider the point that this is bullshit legislation, I mean it's trans fat... do we really need to pay our politicians to ban trans fat? Aren't there more important issues to address right now than what grease they deep fry my filet o fish in?
 

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It is so hard to debate a topic with someone who just makes personal attacks with no standpoint on them. You are calling me lazy and less of a man because I agree with the governments decision. That to me makes your entire point that was getting interesting absolutely POINTLESS.

I've already argued my points. If you don't like the personal attacks then ignore them. Those are my opinions; I feel that people who are unwilling to care for their own bodies, who are unwilling to take responsibility for their decisions and who would rather have Uncle Sam make all their decisions are lazy and undeserving of the very freedom that makes this nation attractive to so many others.

I don't believe you're less of a man for agreeing with the government, I believe you're less of a man for allowing someone else to make decisions about your life.


but I would still give you bumtickelz :heart:
 

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meh, i give up if thats your opinion on the personal attacks because it will end up just pissing me off and that is no way to debate a subject. Never debate if you cant keep it just as simple as the debate itself.

and yes I would like my bumtickle now
 

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First of all it's not nearly as unhealthy as smoking and you know it. Secondly, smoking is a choice. Breathing is not. Granted one could choose to live out in the country where the air is cleaner but the different is negligible at best. Taking a deep breath in the heart of NYC is a far cry from sucking on a cigarette or eating a 90% trans fat cheeseburger. The bottom line is that you cannot tell me I can't eat those trans-fat filled food because it's unhealthy when you're doing something even worse and expect to be taken seriously. That's pure hypocrisy.

like I said, go suck on some arsenic for all I care...you are arguing for the sake of arguing, not for your love of trans fats
 

my little brony

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meh, i give up if thats your opinion on the personal attacks because it will end up just pissing me off and that is no way to debate a subject. Never debate if you cant keep it just as simple as the debate itself.

and yes I would like my bumtickle now

I've clearly stated in this thread that I am not good at debating. :fly: I just like to argue. There's a difference. :p
 

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you are confusing eating out as being unilaterally fast food and that is NOT the case
No I'm not. I assume that all restaurants are bad for me too. For Christ's sake, they give you 300% more food than you need. If I eat all of that and get fat, is it now their fault? Should the government regulate portion size?
 

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That doesn't even consider the point that this is bullshit legislation, I mean it's trans fat... do we really need to pay our politicians to ban trans fat? Aren't there more important issues to address right now than what grease they deep fry my filet o fish in?
Great point.
 

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ah, youthful idealism, how cute :p
It's funny because just a few years ago I would have been considered a liberal and a socialist. Then one day I realized that no one has authority over what goes on in my bedroom nor in my bank account. I'm not quite a conservative but a damned staunch libertarian. If only we had a party a bit more tactically effective than a screen door on a submarine.
 

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No I'm not. I assume that all restaurants are bad for me too. For Christ's sake, they give you 300% more food than you need. If I eat all of that and get fat, is it now their fault? Should the government regulate portion size?


the monkeys in the study earlier in the thread gained 5.5% more weight on a standard diet with trans fats involved...no gorging was involved there
 

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I think you need to be careful with what decisions you allow the government to make for you. If you set the precedent that it's okay to restrict our choices for the greater good, then what situations can evolve from that philosophy in the future, "for the greater good"?

That doesn't even consider the point that this is bullshit legislation, I mean it's trans fat... do we really need to pay our politicians to ban trans fat? Aren't there more important issues to address right now than what grease they deep fry my filet o fish in?


like I said earlier, if big business could sell you a pile of arsenic painted to look like a burger and get away with it, they would if it meant greater profit margins...the govt DOES have an obligation to protect the citizens to a degree and that's why we have groups like the FDA, the HTSB and the FAA
 

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like I said earlier, if big business could sell you a pile of arsenic painted to look like a burger and get away with it, they would if it meant greater profit margins...the govt DOES have an obligation to protect the citizens to a degree and that's why we have groups like the FDA, the HTSB and the FAA
No they wouldn't because people would start dying and stop buying their food. A free market with minimal government interference is self regulating. Yes, the government has an obligation to protect us but not to keep us from getting fat. That's a gross overextension of its' authority.