Ontopic Buddhism
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You can't prove that God doesn't exist. Therefore, a belief system based on the fact that God doesn't exist, requires faith.
Not to mention athiests preach as much, or more, than born again Christians. Kinda like you do...
Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski
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Never really been into Zen to be honest, it's a it Japanesey and shit which isn't something I subscribe to. I do know a pretty cool meditation that I believe is Zen though and it's called 'just sitting'. I give you 3 guesses as to what you do. It's pretty cool though. i went on a retreat and did a 'just sitting' meditation and had some kind of mental breakthrough which made me cry instantly. Can't remember what it was now but it seemed very profound.
he's wrong. atheism does not inherently purport that there is no higher being. agnosticism is the idea that not only do we not know but that we can't possibly ever know. agnosticism actually makes a claim while generally weak/negative explicit atheism simply says
. the rare strong/positive explicit atheist actually makes the claim that there is no god but holding a single belief idea by others does not make a religion any more than sharing the idea that guns are important for self defense is a religion.I'm an atheist because I have no belief in a higher power. I don't claim there isn't one but since there's no rational evidence to support the existence of one I'm not going to buy into it. The majority of atheists follow a similar line of thinking with varying levels of certainty and with some expressing them more than others but at no point can it honestly be said that a lack of belief system - ie, not giving a fuck whether there's a higher power - can be called a religion simply because some people are actively trying to discourage others who do have beliefs in a higher power.
At best one could link atheism to a set of political beliefs but even then, not even a significant majority of atheists care about how much the government associates with religion.
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i agree with semper.
the leader of the national atheist alliance or whatever it was called was on the radio here recently and basically said "i'll believe in zeus when he comes down from olympus." he's not claiming there is no higher being, just saying it's not realistic and he's not going to believe the religions of the world, and on the same token thinks religion should be separated from everything we do politically.
the leader of the national atheist alliance or whatever it was called was on the radio here recently and basically said "i'll believe in zeus when he comes down from olympus." he's not claiming there is no higher being, just saying it's not realistic and he's not going to believe the religions of the world, and on the same token thinks religion should be separated from everything we do politically.
he's wrong. atheism does not inherently purport that there is no higher being. agnosticism is the idea that not only do we not know but that we can't possibly ever know. agnosticism actually makes a claim while generally weak/negative explicit atheism simply says
I'm an atheist because I have no belief in a higher power. I don't claim there isn't one but since there's no rational evidence to support the existence of one I'm not going to buy into it. The majority of atheists follow a similar line of thinking with varying levels of certainty and with some expressing them more than others but at no point can it honestly be said that a lack of belief system - ie, not giving a fuck whether there's a higher power - can be called a religion simply because some people are actively trying to discourage others who do have beliefs in a higher power.
At best one could link atheism to a set of political beliefs but even then, not even a significant majority of atheists care about how much the government associates with religion.
Sounds like there are different definitions of atheism to different people.
exactly. it's not a religion by any stretch of the imagination. not-collecting-stamps is not a hobby, bald is not a hair color, walking is not a car manufacturer
might as well call buddhism a political party. sure, you can call it that. you can call it hot sauce if you want. you'll still be wrong
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Religion is a belief in something... atheism is a belief in something too.exactly. it's not a religion by any stretch of the imagination. not-collecting-stamps is not a hobby, bald is not a hair color, walking is not a car manufacturer
might as well call buddhism a political party. sure, you can call it that. you can call it hot sauce if you want. you'll still be wrong
religion is far more than just a belief in something and atheism is a lack of belief, not a belief
you and I share similar beliefs in regards to guns, am i rite? that doesn't make those specific beliefs a religion
Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski
Clam whisperer