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Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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that's cool and all but the magic and mysticism involved with "enlightenment" is just as hilariously childish as believing in a zombie jew

That's an opinion for sure, but after knowing many Buddhist monks for a very long period I'd say it's about as hilarious as a baby being run over by a bulldozer. If you spend time around such people it isn't something you can doubt or something you don't want for yourself, it's fantastic, contagious and best of all: attainable. :)
 

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omg nemo!!!! awesome. you can teach me! be my mentor.
i really really am digging it. im reading so much about it... i love the meditation, the simpleness...

i have sooooooo many questions

:lol: There's many schools of though, mine is quite Western which I guess would be easier for you to relate to. For real though if you do have questions let me know and I'll try and give you an answer if not contact one of my teachers for a very well thought out and informed answer. :)
 

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Oh and if you want my personal recommendation for some books I LOVE anything by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. I always go back to this one at least once a year:

http://www.amazon.com/Eight-Steps-H...7786/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1290720214&sr=8-3

I guess this one would be good for you as you want to learn more too:

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-...6772/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1290720214&sr=8-7

The reason I like him so much is because he's very East meets West and he explains things in simple terminology as well as quite elaborate Buddhist terms. :) Also it just makes so much damn sense all the time.
 

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That's an opinion for sure, but after knowing many Buddhist monks for a very long period I'd say it's about as hilarious as a baby being run over by a bulldozer. If you spend time around such people it isn't something you can doubt or something you don't want for yourself, it's fantastic, contagious and best of all: attainable. :)

:lol: your zealotry and rationalization of the supernatural is identical to that of any bible thumper
 

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Whatever makes you happy so long as you're not hurting anyone in the process is what I say about such things. People can believe whatever they like so long as it doesn't negatively impact people or the world.

Living in a Buddhist way is very positive and happy without being unrealistic (imo). Things are a lot clearer, easier and calmer which makes you just feel so good and it also helps you make really quick personal growth.:)

see? this is what im talking about. i can feel nemos positive energy
why all u fucking shriveled up california raisins have to be so negative

iagree with nemo... clearer..easier..calmer.. thats exactly what i want
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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Religion isn't ALWAYS bad. If she thinks it helps her, then she should embrace it.

Exactly. It's as if we're so cynical we think following principles based on compassion is somehow wrong. I don't agree with bible bashers but if someone wants to follow Jesus' example and be a good person what is wrong with that? We need more nice and caring people in the world who are compassionate, not less.
 

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Exactly. It's as if we're so cynical we think following principles based on compassion is somehow wrong. I don't agree with bible bashers but if someone wants to follow Jesus' example and be a good person what is wrong with that? We need more nice and caring people in the world who are compassionate, not less.

Shove it weirdo!
 

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Exactly. It's as if we're so cynical we think following principles based on compassion is somehow wrong. I don't agree with bible bashers but if someone wants to follow Jesus' example and be a good person what is wrong with that? We need more nice and caring people in the world who are compassionate, not less.

bravo nemo!!!!!
 

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Hang round with the monks and tell me they're not exponentially more enlightened than any person you've ever met bro, then maybe we can talk about it like adults.

sure thing, punkin :heart: you go on believing that your vast experience around monks qualifies you to make that judgment
 

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Exactly. It's as if we're so cynical we think following principles based on compassion is somehow wrong. I don't agree with bible bashers but if someone wants to follow Jesus' example and be a good person what is wrong with that? We need more nice and caring people in the world who are compassionate, not less.
no one's arguing about the philosophy of being nice, but the fact that you've made fun of christians for believing in fairy tales on this very forum while accepting your own brand of mythology is lollerskates
 

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no one's arguing about the philosophy of being nice, but the fact that you've made fun of christians for believing in fairy tales on this very forum while accepting your own brand of mythology is lollerskates

You've not asked me about any beliefs regarding buddhist 'mythology' vs. buddhist philosophy but carry on pretending that you did and know my opinions on any such subject. :)
 

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You've not asked me about any beliefs regarding buddhist 'mythology' vs. buddhist philosophy but carry on pretending that you did and know my opinions on any such subject. :)

you've talked about them before, but if you reject such things as the existence of naraka or the asuras then you're as much a buddhist as is a christian that doesn't believe jesus was the son of god

you can agree with the underlying philosophical message and that's all cool but if you're not buying the mythology then you're not really practicing the religion, you'd be like any other atheist that thinks some religions have applicable secular ideals
 
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you've talked about them before, but if you reject such things as the existence of naraka or the asuras then you're as much a buddhist as is a christian that doesn't believe jesus was the son of god

you can agree with the underlying philosophical message and that's all cool but if you're not buying the mythology then you're not really practicing the religion, you'd be like any other atheist that thinks some religions have applicable secular ideals

If you say so dude but I'm not the one making presumptions here. You don't know about how I practice my religion, my particular school of Buddhist thought practices and teachings but you seem little interested in knowing them either. I'm a logical human being and I don't think being a good Christian means you should disregard science, nor do I think the same about Buddhism. The Dalai Lama himself is a very scientific person in fact.
 

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If you say so dude but I'm not the one making presumptions here. You don't know about how I practice my religion, my particular school of Buddhist thought practices and teachings but you seem little interested in knowing them either. I'm a logical human being and I don't think being a good Christian means you should disregard science, nor do I think the same about Buddhism. The Dalai Lama himself is a very scientific person in fact.

you completely ignored what I said. either you believe in the mythology or you're not really subscribing to the religion. the only reason I even bring this up is because you have gone on record here as flagrantly ridiculing people who believe in various christian mythologies. you can't have it both ways; either fairy tales and imaginary friends are for kids or you believe in the punabbhava and thus believe in something with as much scientific validity as moses parting the red sea. if it's the latter then yeah, you can call yourself a buddhist, albeit a hypocritical one. if, however, you reject the supernatural hoopla that comes packaged with the religion then you are merely posing as a buddhist, which in my opinion is all the better because that would establish you as a logical human being. simply accepting the notion of demons and demigods, of rebirth and karma is no different than accepting the notion of talking snakes and virgin births. bottom line: if you're really a buddhist, stop talking smack about the supernatural beliefs of others
 
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you completely ignored what I said. either you believe in the mythology or you're not really subscribing to the religion. the only reason I even bring this up is because you have gone on record here as flagrantly ridiculing people who believe in various christian mythologies. you can't have it both ways; either fairy tales and imaginary friends are for kids or you believe in the punabbhava and thus believe in something with as much scientific validity as moses parting the red sea. if it's the latter then yeah, you can call yourself a buddhist, albeit a hypocritical one. if, however, you reject the supernatural hoopla that comes packaged with the religion then you are merely posing as a buddhist, which in my opinion is all the better because that would establish you as a logical human being. simply accepting the notion of demons and demigods, of rebirth and karma is no different than accepting the notion of talking snakes and virgin births. bottom line: if you're really a buddhist, stop talking smack about the supernatural beliefs of others

:lol: I'm not the one bashing on peoples beliefs. I might have done in the past but it's not my typical MO to bash on Christians unlike some other people. However you're the one who seems ignorant by supposing that all Buddhist schools of thought are like the Catholic church in which you must believe certain things or you're a 'bad' follower. I'm not in Tibet, nor does much of my philosophy come from there. Being a logical and scientific being is not at odds with modern Buddhism, we're capable of moving on which is something I find off about certain parts of Christianity. Your faith and religion do not have to fall apart just because you admit that thousands of years ago people saw things differently to now and we now know certain things better than we have done in the past. I don't believe the cornerstone of any religion should fall on bad science or bad history writing, the core principles are all the same either way and that doesn't have to change. Who cares if I believe that Santideva ascended to the skies once he had finished writing the Bodhicaryavatara? Honestly most people in the buddhist community laugh at the thought of that happening, maybe it's a metaphor, who cares? What matters is the content of the scripts he wrote and what you take from them and apply to your way of living life, just as people would use Jesus as an example of how to live.