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TuhMollie

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People work hard every day and will never be where you are. This isn't their fault. They're not to blame, they're not a shitty person who made bad choices unless being born was their choice, they're not less hard working than you, they just don't realise this bullshit dream is a dream. Economies do not work with everyone being middle class if they try hard enough, you're not so stupid you think that, right?

Sorry, but I have to agree with my littlest hobo here.
I was born in a 3rd world country.. Seen people work 1000x harder than anyone in the USA only to have 10% of what a "poor" person, by american standards would have....


YOU GO @Nemesi. Spit your troof gurrrrl!
 
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Duke

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That's all fine and dandy, but it doesn't change the fact that a big percentage of our poor people suck.

Granted, a big percentage of our rich people suck too. Sad part is my taxes go to paying for both of them.
 

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Your outlook is a spoonfed fantasy. The world does not work in terms of 'oh if you work hard enough you can do x, y and z'. People are not born equal, nor do they have equal opportunities in life, nor are there even the right amount of places for everyone who wants to be in that position. How exactly do you explain that one away?

Again, your lack of understanding of this country is marring your judgement. Work hard and go to college. It's almost a guarantee here that you'll be some sort of middle class here with that simple plan. (And as GHOST pointed out, sometimes you don't even need college if you work hard enough.)

People work hard every day and will never be where you are. This isn't their fault. They're not to blame, they're not a shitty person who made bad choices unless being born was their choice, they're not less hard working than you, they just don't realise this bullshit dream is a dream. Economies do not work with everyone being middle class if they try hard enough, you're not so stupid you think that, right?

Your blind rage is preventing you from understanding how it works here. Settle down. Of course not everyone can be middle class. By its very definition, there has to be a lower class. And I'm fine with people being there if they are fine with subsistence living. I just don't want to pay a shitload of money to give them the same things that I have worked hard to attain.
 
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Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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Work hard and go to college. .

My lack of understanding?

This simple thinking shows your own, sorry.

I can't really be bothered to debate with people who have no compassion for their fellow man and think they've had 'struggles' when in reality I imagine they don't quite comprehend what many people deal with on a daily basis. Working hard and going to college is not always within your control, and thinking it is is stupid. I'm glad you found it possible, but we're not all the same and not everybody is born equal.
 

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I never said they did. But congratulations on being born in a privileged position, I'm glad you feel you have done so well without any 'handsouts' but in actual reality you were born white and you were born male, you won the lottery compared to others so don't give the condescending bullshit about 'you can do anything you want if you try hard enough' because it's bullshit.

lol @ you saying Zac, and abstractly me, were born privileged.
 

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I just don't want to pay a shitload of money to give them the same things that I have worked hard to attain.

Number one reason so many of the middle class have issues with welfare. It's not welfare any more. It's balancing out the middle and lower classes to be the same, while the upper class skips along laughing the entire way.
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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lol @ you saying Zac, and abstractly me, were born privileged.

Bigger lol at you denying your privilege.

You were born in a first world country
You were born white
You were born male
You were born with a supportive or loving family
You were born with a roof over your head, running water and free education (up to a certain age).

No privilege? Yeah. Right.
 

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My lack of understanding?

This simple thinking shows your own, sorry.

I can't really be bothered to debate with people who have no compassion for their fellow man and think they've had 'struggles' when in reality I imagine they don't quite comprehend what many people deal with on a daily basis. Working hard and going to college is not always within your control, and thinking it is is stupid. I'm glad you found it possible, but we're not all the same and not everybody is born equal.

So now you're moving the target, but if you would just prefer to stop debating on this - we can.
 

Duke

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lol @ you saying Zac, and abstractly me, were born privileged.

My parents were shit broke and just out of high school when they had me. Neither graduated college, but were raised right, and as a result, their hard work made them able to eventually create a stable financial environment for themselves.

Of course, it didn't happen until their 40's when all of us kids moved out :lol:
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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So now you're moving the target, but if you would just prefer to stop debating on this - we can.

I didn't move any target at all and don't know why you're pretending I did, but whatevs.

I don't really expect much more from many of you and it's sad. It's sad when you can't acknowlege other states of minds, life experiences and situations. It really is.
 

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Bigger lol at you denying your privilege.

You were born in a first world country
You were born white
You were born male
You were born with a supportive or loving family
You were born with a roof over your head, running water and free education (up to a certain age).

No privilege? Yeah. Right.

You basically just described yourself beyond the issue of sex, you realize that right?
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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So were most of our "less fortunate"...

Were they?

'You were born white
You were born male
You were born with a supportive or loving family'

Sadly, again sadly, when you talk about people who are 'less fortunate' you (royal you, not you plot) tend to incorporate people of certain races within that bracket, not exclusively but it's obvious certain people are included. I suppose some of you might deny it, but it's fairly obvious.
 

Duke

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I didn't move any target at all and don't know why you're pretending I did, but whatevs.

I don't really expect much more from many of you and it's sad. It's sad when you can't acknowlege other states of minds, life experiences and situations. It really is.

You, saying this..


:lol:
 

Duke

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So, yellow people in Japan are privileged

White people in Russia are privileged.

It comes from being the majority, and sometimes founding, race for their country of origin.

Yet, yellow privileged doesn't exist in china. There it's all based on class. Same with India. To say 'whites are privileged' is a misnomer that ignores similar situations for different races in other parts of the world.

Basically, you lack the correct worldview to make that statement. When you consider the racial diversity of the US compared with other nations, you might gain a better perspective on the issue.