Food 2019 Amateur Farm and Garden thread

[wetwillie]

you've gotta augment somehow though dontcha? Your soil would be exhausted in a couple years if you arent bringing in manure or compost, or something

Every year is done the same. Thick layer of cardboard, all grass clippings added on top. I use one 40 lb. bag of Miloganite to side dress some of the plants that like extra nitrogen - not all do,e.g carrots, rutabaga,turnips. Even peppers and tomatoes produce much better if they start to run out of excess nitrogen as they go into fruiting, otherwise you are pushing them to keep producing vegetation instead of going to the end game of keeping their species going through seeding.fruiting. Cannabis too for those into that. Most people over fertilize like hell, spreading manure means you are feeding any weeds. Side-dressing your actual plants means the food is where it is needed.
I've been doing the organic gardening thing since 1981. I'll stand on my (unabashedly) awesome results. $1500 worth of produce in 2000 sq. feet. * I also don't plant in rows unless absolutely necessary. A carrot seed pack says 4" apart in rows 2 feet apart. FUck that - plant on a grid, all 6" apart in a bed 3-4' wide and never walk between them. 40-80% more production.

 

[wetwillie]

Bullshit. Star Trek showed me that the mycelial network is galaxy-wide.

There are a few mushrooms that are the largest living organism on earth. Didn't know they extended THAT far.

 

[Immigrant]

I seem to remember a short thing (insert joke here) on NPR about harvesting pee because of a nutrient that we need and it makes gardening either more bountiful or enjoyable or whatnot, cuz I don’t fuckin know.

 

[wetwillie]

I seem to remember a short thing (insert joke here) on NPR about harvesting pee because of a nutrient that we need and it makes gardening either more bountiful or enjoyable or whatnot, cuz I don’t fuckin know.

Urea -tons of nitrogen. Dog's pissing on the lawn creating dead spots - killing the grass with kindness.

 

[Domon]

if you have a septic system, all your pee goes out into the lawn, jsut a couple of feet down

 

[kiwi]

Every year is done the same. Thick layer of cardboard, all grass clippings added on top. I use one 40 lb. bag of Miloganite to side dress some of the plants that like extra nitrogen - not all do,e.g carrots, rutabaga,turnips. Even peppers and tomatoes produce much better if they start to run out of excess nitrogen as they go into fruiting, otherwise you are pushing them to keep producing vegetation instead of going to the end game of keeping their species going through seeding.fruiting. Cannabis too for those into that. Most people over fertilize like hell, spreading manure means you are feeding any weeds. Side-dressing your actual plants means the food is where it is needed.
I've been doing the organic gardening thing since 1981. I'll stand on my (unabashedly) awesome results. $1500 worth of produce in 2000 sq. feet. * I also don't plant in rows unless absolutely necessary. A carrot seed pack says 4" apart in rows 2 feet apart. FUck that - plant on a grid, all 6" apart in a bed 3-4' wide and never walk between them. 40-80% more production.

When we move im gonna fly you in to help get our garden all set up k.

 

[wetwillie]

When we move im gonna fly you in to help get our garden all set up k.

aww, you're too kind. And imo the chillest person here. Bar none.

 

[nukes]

Farmers used to rest fields between crops.
Crop rotation. Using the same soil endlessly without rest is bad.

 

[Jehannum]

Farmers used to rest fields between crops.
Crop rotation. Using the same soil endlessly without rest is bad.

Now we just till more fertilizer into the field. Crap rotation.

 

[Frau Blugher]

Black earth , breakfast of champignons .

 

[nukes]

Oklahoma soil died because it was prarie. Tilling destroyed a delicate soil ecosystem.

 

[wetwillie]

Farmers used to rest fields between crops.
Crop rotation. Using the same soil endlessly without rest is bad.

Resting the field was often more than mere "rest". Grow corn and fertilize like fuck - then seed the field with thistle, with it's up to 20' roots, to bring nutrients back up, mow that shit down before it goes to seed. Or just use the liquid death shit from Monsanto - uh, no. Clover and beans - both sequester nitrogen into the soil with their roots.
@Domon -ah, I also give most plants, especially of nightshade family a teaspoon of epsom salts(magnesium sulfate) and I broadcast maybe 1 cup of born(borax) to the entire garden every few years via a siphon going into the sprinkler. "Azomite" is good if you suspect mineral deficiencies.

 

[HipHugHer]

Resting the field was often more than mere "rest". Grow corn and fertilize like fuck - then seed the field with thistle, with it's up to 20' roots, to bring nutrients back up, mow that shit down before it goes to seed. Or just use the liquid death shit from Monsanto - uh, no. Clover and beans - both sequester nitrogen into the soil with their roots.
@Domon -ah, I also give most plants, especially of nightshade family a teaspoon of epsom salts(magnesium sulfate) and I broadcast maybe 1 cup of born(borax) to the entire garden every few years via a siphon going into the sprinkler. "Azomite" is good if you suspect mineral deficiencies.

We always swapped which fields we put soybeans and corn in each year for this reason. I didn't know the specifics of it at the time but knew the beans put back in what the corn took out.

 

[HipHugHer]

Farmers used to rest fields between crops.
Crop rotation. Using the same soil endlessly without rest is bad.

Rest the field every 7th year.
Everything you need to know about growing stuff is in Leviticus.

 

[Strings]

Everything you need to know about growing stuff is in Leviticus.

Or the produce section.

 

[wetwillie]

Or the produce section.

I guess this makes you the grazing beast.
“Six years you shall sow your land and gather in its produce, but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave, the beasts of the field may eat."

 

[Strings]

I guess this makes your the grazing beast.
“Six years you shall sow your land and gather in its produce, but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave, the beasts of the field may eat."

Most of us are, Eddie.

 

[HipHugHer]

Oklahoma soil died because it was prarie. Tilling destroyed a delicate soil ecosystem.

The native prairie grasses had roots that went way, way deep. Helped to hold everything in place. Also got grazed and fertilized from the top down by millions of Buffalo and other critters.
Occasional fire is also good for the land.

 

[Immigrant]

Urea -tons of nitrogen. Dog's pissing on the lawn creating dead spots - killing the grass with kindness.

 

[wetwillie]

Imagine the smell at that place