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polo said:
Fluox is a mood stabilizer - not an anti-depressant. It reeks havok on your sleep pattern, and your emotions. It should not be prescribed to anyone without CBT being attempted first.

This isn't the done thing however as Fluox is now off-patent, so to recoup the costs they have to prescribe more of it. As it's sociological effects are minimal, it prints money essentially.

Drugs are never the answer. if you're feeling down again, don't feel that they're the solution.
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I'm awaiting some CBT at the moment and it's been a long time coming as I'm sure you're aware psychology referrals move very slowly. In the meantime though thanks to finding the right SSRI I'm much happier, able to work well and can deal with life as easily as anybody. Without that interim prescription I'd be screwed.
 
SemperFly said:
oh but you don't have cancer. that's a different argument. your claim was that without the free healthcare you would be unemployed

simply because you would find your job hard to cope with. I say again, boo fucking hoo.

so tell me, how many drugs have you done? at what age? when did you start drinking? do you realize that nicotine affects mental development?

if you're the one responsible for your own mental problems when why should you get any assistance whatsoever, whether its free healthcare or public assistance for being unemployed? are you even contributing enough to the public coffers to make those tax dollars spent on you worth it or would there be a greater net return on the investment if you didn't get any help at all? can you justify your continued existence? :fly:
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IF I'm the one responsible. IF. You nor anybody else will ever know. Mental health problems can be caused by many factors, many of which do not involve that individual at all.

Am I contributing enough? :lol: I pay over £300 in every paycheck per month to the g'man, 20% of everything I buy is tax for the g'man, I pay £100 a month in tax to my local council to collect my bins every month. Pretty sure I can justify my continued working existence thanks.
 
SemperFly said:
oh but you don't have cancer. that's a different argument. your claim was that without the free healthcare you would be unemployed

simply because you would find your job hard to cope with. I say again, boo fucking hoo.

so tell me, how many drugs have you done? at what age? when did you start drinking? do you realize that nicotine affects mental development?

if you're the one responsible for your own mental problems when why should you get any assistance whatsoever, whether its free healthcare or public assistance for being unemployed? are you even contributing enough to the public coffers to make those tax dollars spent on you worth it or would there be a greater net return on the investment if you didn't get any help at all? can you justify your continued existence?
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she's referring to the infrastructure of the NHS. You still have to apply for this, it's not the same as the silly service-find-me-a-job program that existed under Labour. The NHS is a bigger employer than the military in the UK. It's a perfectly acceptable and professional place to work. Noone gets a job in the NHS through welfare, is my point.

Nicotene of course effects most forms of development, so does water, so does air. The problem with the variable of Nicotene is that it is also synthesized in the body as NADP as part of the CAC. There's no escaping nicotene.

Also, I read a very decent study last month suggesting that 10 cigarettes a day halves your risk of Alzheimers due to the destruction and creation of brain cells. In this respect, isn't that a positive? Cigarettes also block the Acetyl CoA from binding in the synapse, lowering threshold potential for activity, lowering your stress levels. There are plenty of reasons to smoke and enjoy smoking. Alcohol is the drug you should be angry at.
 
Knee-moe said:
IF I'm the one responsible. IF. You nor anybody else will ever know. Mental health problems can be caused by many factors, many of which do not involve that individual at all.
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but many of those factors do involve the individual, especially when they've admittedly been putting mind altering substances in their bodies since adolescence.
Am I contributing enough? :lol: I pay over £300 in every paycheck per month to the g'man, 20% of everything I buy is tax for the g'man, I pay £100 a month in tax to my local council to collect my bins every month. Pretty sure I can justify my continued working existence thanks.
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but you still can't justify the statement that you would be unemployed without the healthcare because ultimately, you can't handle it. that's nowhere near the same as someone getting cancer.
 
Knee-moe said:
I'm awaiting some CBT at the moment and it's been a long time coming as I'm sure you're aware psychology referrals move very slowly. In the meantime though thanks to finding the right SSRI I'm much happier, able to work well and can deal with life as easily as anybody. Without that interim prescription I'd be screwed.
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Fluox could easily be replaced with a placebo and still have the same efficacy rating I've been assured. I feel the same way too. Psychology referrals move pretty slowly, yes. Next time you're at the Doctors ask for contact with the Locum Psychiatric Nurse which will take a day or two to set up. If you need it. This will make things progress much more rapidly.
 
SemperFly said:
but many of those factors do involve the individual, especially when they've admittedly been putting mind altering substances in their bodies since adolescence.
but you still can't justify the statement that you would be unemployed without the healthcare because ultimately, you can't handle it. that's nowhere near the same as someone getting cancer.
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Do, can, maybe, if, but, perhaps. It doesn't matter.

I can justify it, I needed help with my mental health (which is exactly the same as needing help with my physical health except there's added stigma because of idiots like you) in order to continue working, I got it due to the tax I pay from working, therefore I can carry on working and paying into that system which pays for everyone. It's much more beneficial to have a healthy workforce than one that isn't and needs assistance without paying for anything.
 
polo said:
she's referring to the infrastructure of the NHS. You still have to apply for this, it's not the same as the silly service-find-me-a-job program that existed under Labour. The NHS is a bigger employer than the military in the UK. It's a perfectly acceptable and professional place to work. Noone gets a job in the NHS through welfare, is my point.
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I'm not saying there's anything wrong with her working there but her complaint was that she wouldn't be able to handle the stress of the job without the assistance. Harden the fuck up.
Nicotene of course effects most forms of development, so does water, so does air. The problem with the variable of Nicotene is that it is also synthesized in the body as NADP as part of the CAC. There's no escaping nicotene.

Also, I read a very decent study last month suggesting that 10 cigarettes a day halves your risk of Alzheimers due to the destruction and creation of brain cells. In this respect, isn't that a positive? Cigarettes also block the Acetyl CoA from binding in the synapse, lowering threshold potential for activity, lowering your stress levels. There are plenty of reasons to smoke and enjoy smoking. Alcohol is the drug you should be angry at.
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which is why I was asking what other drugs she did during her teenage years, including alcohol. even if her mental problems are in no way related to any substance use - lol - she still just tried to compare her lousy stress management skills to getting cancer
 
polo said:
Fluox could easily be replaced with a placebo and still have the same efficacy rating I've been assured. I feel the same way too. Psychology referrals move pretty slowly, yes. Next time you're at the Doctors ask for contact with the Locum Psychiatric Nurse which will take a day or two to set up. If you need it. This will make things progress much more rapidly.
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I'm on Sertraline and Propanolol, Fluoxetine I didn't take. Amitriptyline and Citalopram were trialled unsuccesfully and the Sertraline has done the trick. :)

Cheers for the free advice.
 
Knee-moe said:
Do, can, maybe, if, but, perhaps. It doesn't matter.

I can justify it, I needed help with my mental health (which is exactly the same as needing help with my physical health except there's added stigma because of idiots like you) in order to continue working, I got it due to the tax I pay from working, therefore I can carry on working and paying into that system which pays for everyone. It's much more beneficial to have a healthy workforce than one that isn't and needs assistance without paying for anything.
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sure does matter. if it's your fault then why do deserve help?

needing mental help is not exactly the same as needing physical help. not even close. what you're assuming is that without this job you would still deserve assistance. my point is that you should consider the possibility that you wouldn't deserve it because you lost the job due to your own inability to handle it
 
SemperFly said:
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with her working there but her complaint was that she wouldn't be able to handle the stress of the job without the assistance. Harden the fuck up.
which is why I was asking what other drugs she did during her teenage years, including alcohol. even if her mental problems are in no way related to any substance use - lol - she still just tried to compare her lousy stress management skills to getting cancer
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Stress management skills?

Is everybody the same? Does everyone react to different situations differently? Do you do my job? Do you work in my environment? No. Get off your shetland pony and get your head out your rectum.
 
SemperFly said:
sure does matter. if it's your fault then why do deserve help?

needing mental help is not exactly the same as needing physical help. not even close. what you're assuming is that without this job you would still deserve assistance. my point is that you should consider the possibility that you wouldn't deserve it because you lost the job due to your own inability to handle it
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It is the same. You're just too dumb to realise that mental health issues are one and the same as physical issues they're just less understood in many respects. Many mental issues are PHYSICAL in that they involve the brain and something abnormal with it.
 
And my point about 'fault' is that you can apportion none. People may get mentally ill of their own accord, something may precipitate it or something they have chosen to do may cause it. You can never put fault in any way because you cannot prove it. It's not a car accident where the facts are conclusive.
 
Knee-moe said:
Stress management skills?

Is everybody the same? Does everyone react to different situations differently? Do you do my job? Do you work in my environment? No. Get off your shetland pony and get your head out your rectum.
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of course everyone isn't the same because not everyone whines that their job is oh so hard that they'd literally be unemployed without drugs

ninja, those "squaddies" you hate so much are out there getting shot at for queen & country and most don't come back crying that it's too hard
 
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SemperFly said:
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with her working there but her complaint was that she wouldn't be able to handle the stress of the job without the assistance. Harden the fuck up.
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Targets will drive anyone to madness. I leave my classes or workplace as many times as possible a day to cope with my stress. I go outside and have a cigarette. This annoys a great many people, and that's exactly why I do it.

which is why I was asking what other drugs she did during her teenage years, including alcohol. even if her mental problems are in no way related to any substance use - lol - she still just tried to compare her lousy stress management skills to getting cancer
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Noone with an ounce of sense will ever admit to anyone what drugs they do. The second you mention any sort of abnormal intake it goes directly on the front of your folder in the form of a bar code. The old adage of 'what you don't say can't harm you' works perfectly. I was a fully functioning alcoholic by all means during my first year at Univ. Almost all of my superiors are still fully functioning alcoholics. What gets you through?
 
SemperFly said:
of course everyone isn't the same because not everyone whines that their job is oh so hard that they'd literally be unemployed without drugs

ninja, those "squaddies" you hate so much are out there getting shot at for queen & country and most don't come back crying that it's too hard
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Probably because the squaddies don't have enough thought in their brains to think about their situation. :lol:
 
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