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What Healthcare is "Free"? What the flying fuck do you think NIC is for? Even root canals require an anaesthesiologist on-site to administer hypnotics if required. Almost ALL wisdom tooth removal is now carried out at Dental units in hospitals, no longer clinics.

Oh, you WORK with them. I see. And do you work in a Dental practice? How many of your anesthetists are FGDP certified?

I sometimes go to the coffee shop. I don't know where the coffee comes from, but I like to argue with the person over the counter that it's from Colombia.

That's you.

Free was in inverted commas, just like yours. Such a stupid question I'm not even answering it. You're just spouting off crap in a stupid attempt to make yourself sound like an expert on something when really it aint that complicated. I pay directly for my dentistry care. I do not pay directly when I go and see my doctor or go into a hospital.

Fuck you're dumb.
 
Not completely, but I'm okay with that.

Of course, I also avoid drugs except for those ER type situations myself, I don't typically take the painkillers I'm automatically given.

I take greater risks with non-government tested equipment and I'd say the track record is pretty good.

Personally, yes. I don't take anything I'm prescribed bar the odd sleeping pill when I'm having a troublesome night getting over to sleep. That's very rare.

Where it does start to come in is in regards to my potential children, or perhaps my family.

Pharma, in my experience, cannot be trusted to ever police itself. In that regard, I think Government regulation of that is required.

As for free healthcare. Healthcare is never free. In regards to American medicine, the old adage of "You get what you pay for" stands. I know a lady who was given 2 months to live after her NHL had been beaten into remittance twice. She went to the US for 3 bouts of treatment and is still alive 7 years later.

If you can pay for it. Why not? We need to stop thinking the world can support our exponential population growth and survival rate.
 
Can Pharmaceutical companies be trusted to sufficiently test their own drugs and dosing before preparing them for market?

No, but they shouldn't be tested by a federally funded and controlled entity, either. An independent party would make sense in that situation.
 
Free was in inverted commas, just like yours. Such a stupid question I'm not even answering it. You're just spouting off crap in a stupid attempt to make yourself sound like an expert on something when really it aint that complicated. I pay directly for my dentistry care. I do not pay directly when I go and see my doctor or go into a hospital.

Fuck you're dumb.

You seem preoccupied with saying I'm trying to sound "right" and "smart" instead of "correct".

Is it so hard NME? Oh well, perhaps when you get your degree we can have a chat about this. Until then wave your flag.
 
No, but they shouldn't be tested by a federally funded and controlled entity, either. An independent party would make sense in that situation.

Noone is ever independent. The best we can hope for is government enforced independence.

Perhaps this is different in the US. Here, our drug approval board NICE seems to do an incredibly good job. Seems to.
 
a better questions is how can we "make" people choose policies with more affordable premiums instead of whining that they want the biggies size meal with the dollar menu price.

You mean make people buy the policies that force them to pay $10,000 per person out of pocket? They might as well not have insurance at that point.
 
Correct how?

Dentistry is run differently from the standard NHS service, end of.

Who trains Dentists? Who regulates Dentists? Who pays for their equipment? Who provides all outside support required?

I don't "pay" for my Dentist either as I'm with BUPA, so I don't pay 'directly' either. Guess in your interpretation you'd understand that as "free".
 
Personally, yes. I don't take anything I'm prescribed bar the odd sleeping pill when I'm having a troublesome night getting over to sleep. That's very rare.

Where it does start to come in is in regards to my potential children, or perhaps my family.

Pharma, in my experience, cannot be trusted to ever police itself. In that regard, I think Government regulation of that is required.

As for free healthcare. Healthcare is never free. In regards to American medicine, the old adage of "You get what you pay for" stands. I know a lady who was given 2 months to live after her NHL had been beaten into remittance twice. She went to the US for 3 bouts of treatment and is still alive 7 years later.

If you can pay for it. Why not? We need to stop thinking the world can support our exponential population growth and survival rate.
Government hasn't proven that it can regulate it very well here, all kinds of garbage gets put on the market anyway.
 
You also never responded as to whether any of your friends have the required FGDP certifications to administer dental sedative.
 
Who trains Dentists? Who regulates Dentists? Who pays for their equipment? Who provides all outside support required?

I don't "pay" for my Dentist either as I'm with BUPA, so I don't pay 'directly' either. Guess in your interpretation you'd understand that as "free".

If your BUPA healthcare comes from some kind of agreement you've personally signed with that company then no I wouldn't understand that as free. Your BUPA healthcare is a choice, my tax is not. My tax goes to my healthcare, not the rest of my wage.