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I knew that was a generalization, hence the "even if you halve it"..

so in other words you have no idea if even half the households in the country run a dryer for 30 minutes a day every day. how much energy does that 30 minutes use?

at this point you're just making shit up. the dryer issue would be for the appearance of energy savings, overall it wouldn't make a dent. there are much more significant ways to save energy
 
Another way to save energy in this country is to get people to use their dryers less. In summer, people should be hanging their clothes to dry.

Apartment dwellers. Pollution attraction. The use of gas dryers vs. electric. Need any more arguments against you?

I feel like debating a bit today.
 
so in other words you have no idea if even half the households in the country run a dryer for 30 minutes a day every day. how much energy does that 30 minutes use?

at this point you're just making shit up. the dryer issue would be for the appearance of energy savings, overall it wouldn't make a dent. there are much more significant ways to save energy

ugh... I'm going to call you coqui from now on... you know there is energy being used when it doesn't have to be used.. any energy wasted is bad.. I'd like to see my power bill go down, but until people cut down their energy demand, it will only continue to rise..
 
wtf is pollution attraction?

You are putting fabric up and hanging it to blow in the breeze to get dried. You don't think particles in the air travelling with the wind wouldn't get stuck in the fibers? Or the smells from the toxic gases of the city?
 
you're doing it wrong then..

Maybe if you are right on the beach, else no..

well true, I lived right there


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still, wouldn't make sense where I live now. I'd get to dry maybe five or six articles across the balcony and that's assuming they didn't blow away
 
well true, I lived right there

still, wouldn't make sense where I live now. I'd get to dry maybe five or six articles across the balcony and that's assuming they didn't blow away

I've lived just as close to salt water.. Were you on the ground floor? Did you have any fencing around you?
 
ugh... I'm going to call you coqui from now on... you know there is energy being used when it doesn't have to be used.. any energy wasted is bad.. I'd like to see my power bill go down, but until people cut down their energy demand, it will only continue to rise..

the point is that you're focusing on a relatively insignificant source of energy. and newsflash: since the industrial age our species has never, not once, reduced its energy consumption. that energy would not be saved, it would simply be used for something else. hence the issue to focus on is better ways of producing energy, not some feel good way of pretending to lower it.

I have to use my dryer. it costs me a couple bucks a month at best. it's not far from wasted and certainly worth it. your power bill is not going to go down is people use their dryers less in the summer. again, the amount is insignificant in the grand scheme of things so your idea simply won't make a dent
 
You are putting fabric up and hanging it to blow in the breeze to get dried. You don't think particles in the air travelling with the wind wouldn't get stuck in the fibers? Or the smells from the toxic gases of the city?

putting you cock in another man's ass and then pulling it out again probably generates as much pollution..
 
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the point is that you're focusing on a relatively insignificant source of energy. and newsflash: since the industrial age our species has never, not once, reduced its energy consumption. that energy would not be saved, it would simply be used for something else. hence the issue to focus on is better ways of producing energy, not some feel good way of pretending to lower it.

I have to use my dryer. it costs me a couple bucks a month at best. it's not far from wasted and certainly worth it. your power bill is not going to go down is people use their dryers less in the summer. again, the amount is insignificant in the grand scheme of things so your idea simply won't make a dent

yes.. this is one way of saving energy.. I'm not saying stop using you're dryer and the US' energy problems are solved.. I'm saying here's an idea for you guys to add to list of ideas..
 
yes.. this is one way of saving energy.. I'm not saying stop using you're dryer and the US' energy problems are solved.. I'm saying here's an idea for you guys to add to list of ideas..

on an individual basis, yes. wholly agreed that one could save a few bucks by air drying. however bringing up the idea that everyone should do this implies that it would make a significant impact on the national energy use and it just wouldn't
 
I like how pump prices are spiking when that oil was paid for months ago.

It doesn't matter when it was paid for, or how much was paid for it. You pay the current cost of replacing that gas when you consume it at the pump.
 
on an individual basis, yes. wholly agreed that one could save a few bucks by air drying. however bringing up the idea that everyone should do this implies that it would make a significant impact on the national energy use and it just wouldn't

Alone? No it wouldn't.. Coupled with multiple different ideas, yes it would..
 
Alone? No it wouldn't.. Coupled with multiple different ideas, yes it would..

agreed, but to me it's kinda like the budget cut issue. focus should remain on the big items that make a huge difference before debating the small ones. yes they add up but the amount of time spent discussing those could make a more significant impact on the larger issues. hell, nearly half of our energy production is wasted just getting it from the power plant to our homes; a more pressing concern should be to employ a smart grid that more efficiently manage power distribution and then worry about getting appliances in line.

but even then you have to realize that reducing out energy use is not going to reduce our energy demand. the savings will simply be used for something else. without a massive catastrophe that alters civilizations as we know it our society will not ever reduce its energy consumption. finding better and cleaner ways to produce it and distribute it take a much higher priority than the individual changes that aren't exactly convenient for everyone. you cannot ignore that people - and this includes your countrymen too - aren't going to voluntarily engage in a wholly inconvenient activity if it's not going to make a noticeable and significant impact, especially if that impact is later made irrelevant by other problems
 
What are we, one trick ponies? Why can't we focus on anything that would make a difference?

Regarding what happens to the excess energy. No one knows. So that's all just speculations right now..