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Of course they can. Unless they are enemy, who instead of shitting on the poor thinks its much cooler to shit on the rich(er). ya know, rich people work hard for their money, why not give it to some unemployed shit?

almost every (successful) small business owner I know has either

1) inherited it
2) set it up with parents money

they are pet projects - nothing more. the companies that formally would have hired them due to old boy networks can't due to UK legislation on how jobs are advertised, applied for etc. - and even though that doesn't matter a fuck in reality, who really wants to hire someone who is unskilled simply due to a family tie?

i will also say that they're mostly still in business due to LUCK - not hard graft.
 
almost every (successful) small business owner I know has either

1) inherited it
2) set it up with parents money

they are pet projects - nothing more. the companies that formally would have hired them due to old boy networks can't due to UK legislation on how jobs are advertised, applied for etc. - and even though that doesn't matter a fuck in reality, who really wants to hire someone who is unskilled simply due to a family tie?

i will also say that they're mostly still in business due to LUCK - not hard graft.

how many do you know?

edit: oh, the uk? yeah while there's nepotism here, it would be absurd to think that any significant portion of small business owners - considering that small businesses by far the most numerous types of businesses and employ the majority of the population - merely inherited their money
 
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And your solution is to have the rest of society accept the burden of these people while they go procreate and start the next cycle. Awesome idea, that won't lead to the ultimate downfall of civilization our anything...

Is it their fault or failing that they were born into a shitty family who have drug addictions? No. I would see the burden more on society's failing and fault there so society should take the burden of responsibility for the consequential children. Nobody ASKS to be born. Heroin addicts having kids and still being junkies is a societal problem. :rolleyes:
 
I disagree, it's a personal problem. how does writing checks to a bunch of junkies so they can continue to be junkies and procreate solve anything?
 
Is it their fault or failing that they were born into a shitty family who have drug addictions? No. I would see the burden more on society's failing and fault there so society should take the burden of responsibility for the consequential children. Nobody ASKS to be born. Heroin addicts having kids and still being junkies is a societal problem. :rolleyes:

Are you on some of that heroin you're demonizing? It has nothing to do with fault. It's just the luck of the draw. So life drew you a shitty card. You either deal with it, or be dealt with. That's how life works. This whole 'omg, I'm so sorry your crackhead parents decided to fuck while high on the pipe and not pull out, we totally owe it to you to help you recover from their mistake'. Guess what, no we don't. No one owes anyone anything. Period. I guarantee you those crack head parents won't be doing shit for me if I go down on my luck.

This isn't a 'feel good care bear' world. People are born with horrible diseases. Luck of the draw. People are born into European royalty. Luck of the draw. People are born with 160+ IQs while also burdened with Cystic Fibrosis. Luck of the draw. It's the way life is. It's not up to us to control, just for us to deal with.
 
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How the mental geniuses like O.D.S., 3 more birthdays, ghost boy, Irish boy see this line in the DoI.



How CN, Plot, Duke, Ape, Fly, Coqui, Amstel, Kevlar, myself see the same line.

most of those people probably don't want to be associated with your whack views
 
How the mental geniuses like O.D.S., 3 more birthdays, ghost boy, Irish boy see this line in the DoI.

How CN, Plot, Duke, Ape, Fly, Coqui, Amstel, Kevlar, myself see the same line.
Who cares how they got here, created, divine intervention, or from a boat. If you are a citizen of the US, you should be equal. Why equal picks and chooses between types of people the courts are sorting that out.
 
Who cares how they got here, created, divine intervention, or from a boat. If you are a citizen of the US, you should be equal. Why equal picks and chooses between types of people the courts are sorting that out.

It has nothing to do with how got here. It has to do with political philosophy.

CN Et al believe in hard work will get you want. The rest want to cry to the government about how life unfair and the government needs do something about it.
 
How the mental geniuses like O.D.S., 3 more birthdays, ghost boy, Irish boy see this line in the DoI.



How CN, Plot, Duke, Ape, Fly, Coqui, Amstel, Kevlar, myself see the same line.
:thrawn: what the fuck?

not only is the comparison retarded because the line means the same thing in both cases but you just lumped in at least two die hard atheists into a group that believes anyone was "created"
 
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It has nothing to do with how got here. It has to do with political philosophy.

CN Et al believe in hard work will get you want. The rest want to cry to the government about how life unfair and the government needs do something about it.

I think you mistake my point. All people are equal. Are all treated equally. All should be expected to contribute and earn their way, but that doesn't mean all should expect the same as everyone else.

I don't believe in discrimination for equality based on anything, race, sex, who you want to plug (as long as it's a human being of legal age), etc etc. But I also don't believe in benefits to those same groups claiming discrimination that gives them any additional protections over anyone else. Assault, sexual harassment, discrimination, all people; male, female, gay, straight, white, black, fuscia, get the same benefits and protections as anyone else.

I believe in full equality across the board. I also believe that special support mechanisms are based on inequality, and, as such, need to be removed. Set up the country for a person to make his or her way based on what they contribute, remove support for those that don't. Offer free support mechanisms to remove drug and alcohol dependencies only. If your a sex addict, take up a job in porn but don't come crying. Drug addicts don't get welfare, any welfare benefit comes with an expiration date. Welfare involves birth control, if you can't afford to live unsupported, you should NOT be bringing more children into that scenario. If you do, well, sorry about your luck, but make your own way. No special situation rules. 1 rule for everyone. Special circumstances are an excuse for the weak willed. Short term it will make life difficult for about 10-15% of people. Long term, it's the only way to fix the freeloader society we have become.

And no, I'm not Republican.
 
if you're on some sort of long term government financial assistance and you have yet another child, that child should become a ward of the state and go to parents who want to adopt.

like that fucking cunt in florida that said she could keep having as many kids as she wanted and the stated owed it to her to take care of her
 
if you're on some sort of long term government financial assistance and you have yet another child, that child should become a ward of the state and go to parents who want to adopt.

like that fucking cunt in florida that said she could keep having as many kids as she wanted and the stated owed it to her to take care of her

No one wants to adopt a crack baby. It'll become a permanent ward of the state.
 
No one wants to adopt a crack baby. It'll become a permanent ward of the state.

better that than this

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I'd rather those kids grow up as wards of the state than be raised by the fucking whore who will only teach them that the government owes them everything. at least as wards of the state they might grow up wanting to support themselves
 
It has nothing to do with how got here. It has to do with political philosophy.

CN Et al believe in hard work will get you want. The rest want to cry to the government about how life unfair and the government needs do something about it.

Life is not fair. Never has been, never will be. I just want this country, among many other countries to all work towards building a better life for everyone.