I don't think the republicans realize how much they shit themselves with Trump. Like libertarians and the like used to vote republican but now no one wants to be associated with the crazy pants shit he says on the reg now.
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Petunia
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Valve1138
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Actually Josh, you coward piece of shit, it’s your fucking behavior.
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dear amercunz
kiko and i are sitting here watching the news and talking about your US senate and US House shit, WWIII and that Trump is about to announce his presidential run and he asked me something i didn’t know how to answer so naturally im like HOLD ON LET ME ASK THE AMERICANS THAT LIVE IN MY POCKET
from kiko:
“i thought trump was impeached? how can impeached president run again?”
signed,
kiko
kiko and i are sitting here watching the news and talking about your US senate and US House shit, WWIII and that Trump is about to announce his presidential run and he asked me something i didn’t know how to answer so naturally im like HOLD ON LET ME ASK THE AMERICANS THAT LIVE IN MY POCKET
from kiko:
“i thought trump was impeached? how can impeached president run again?”
signed,
kiko
He was impeached but not convicted. Until the legal system punishes him impeachment is kinda like "do that again and you're grounded."
Valve1138
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to add to this @Petunia ,
the House of Representatives is in charge of impeachment, and they did impeach Trump (twice).
once the House votes in favor of impeachment, then it moves to the Senate to vote on whether or not to convict - they need a 2/3 majority to convict, which did not happen with Trump, so he was acquitted.
if conviction does occur, they're immediately removed from office, and a separate vote can be brought to determine whether they're also banned from holding future federal offices. that only needs a simple majority rather than 2/3, but as Trump was not convicted in the Senate, they can't vote to bar him.
ok so let's say there's this club, and at this particular club there's two non-patron groups - the talent (House) and the bosses (Senate)
if there is a dude that is being A Fucking Problem, the talent can vote on whether they want to label the dude A Fucking Problem and attempt to escalate it, but they cannot themselves remove or bar a patron.
once the talent has officially labeled him A Fucking Problem, they bring it to the bosses, and the bosses get to decide whether they agree that he is A Fucking Problem and that the amount of A Fucking Problem he is warrants being removed - if no, then that's it, he's a known Problem but that's as far as it goes. if yes, they can also decide if they're just removing him for the night (like maybe he just got a little too sauced and was riding the hot mess express but not being an actual sex pest), or further decide he is actually banned from ever returning because of the behavior.
obvious disclaimer that this is a hypothetical for the purposes of analogy and may not match the actual club dynamics anyone may be familiar with.
dems had the house and senate since 2020, what have they done other than send billions to ukraine?
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thank you for this.
when kiko and i had breakfast earlier this am, he asked : did your UF people answer my question ?
yay he was super interested!
we read this response together and he said “ahh ok so he’s ok to run and be a dick again”
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it's also confusing because they call how the Senate finds "conviction" or "acquittal" but they're not REALLY the same thing as how they'd be used in a regular trial, like that proceeding is not itself an actual criminal trial, it's just to determine whether they're removed from office (conviction) or not (acquittal).
as an example of this, during one of the "trials", the republican senators refused to hear evidence... of any sort.
right, in a REAL trial, there are rules about evidence and what can be submitted (and what MUST be submitted) - that determination is made by an (ostensibly) impartial judge who may be privy to the inadmissible evidence but the jurors who will actually decide do not get to hear/see it, and it is based on specific criteria. but, there's no mechanism in a real trial for disallowing all evidence, and jurors cannot refuse to be presented with it and can in fact be removed if they are refusing to participate.
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