Ontopic Poo-litical Thrad

Yeah nah, you're part of the problem. No one is going to engage with someone what basically recites shit they've heard on the news all day and resorts to personal attacks when people dont jerk off to it. Have an original thought.
Pretty sure you started the personal attacks, either way seems like fair game if we're both doing it. I barely keep up with news anymore since it's abundantly clear that humans are just gonna keep fucking each other over until we do the species in.

History echoes and there's really only one endpoint of the path out country is on, absent a massive change. Our population is too delusional to avoid it. All you morons that just couldn't get past your fragile fucking egos and vote for a woman sealed the deal. The USA was built around a diseased core and the rot has spread.
 
To be clear; I don't think Hillary would have been a good president but she could have been the best president. Given the options, the vote was obvious.
 
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To be clear; I don't think Hillary would have been a good president but she could have been the best president. Given the options, the vote was obvious.
People were still mad a black man had been president. I guess there was no way a woman was going to be next. That would be way too progressive in such a short period of time. White men need time to adjust to such drastic changes.
Thousands of years apparently.
 
People were still mad a black man had been president. I guess there was no way a woman was going to be next. That would be way too progressive in such a short period of time. White men need time to adjust to such drastic changes.
Thousands of years apparently.
On an individual level they're just silly and scared but writ large it's incredibly frustrating and dissapointing while harming everyone.
 
People were still mad a black man had been president. I guess there was no way a woman was going to be next. That would be way too progressive in such a short period of time. White men need time to adjust to such drastic changes.
Thousands of years apparently.
She was also a pretty awful candidate. Both were. There was a large number of independents who voted for the "black man" as you put it in 2008 and 2012 but jumped ship and voted for Trump. Also blue collar old school democrats in the Midwest who were big Obama supporters but switched to Trump in 2016. They were the same voters who stunned Clinton and gave Sanders the Michigan primary. Just my humble opinion but 2016 gave us the two worst presidential candidates in modern history.
 
She was also a pretty awful candidate. Both were. There was a large number of independents who voted for the "black man" as you put it in 2008 and 2012 but jumped ship and voted for Trump. Also blue collar old school democrats in the Midwest who were big Obama supporters but switched to Trump in 2016. They were the same voters who stunned Clinton and gave Sanders the Michigan primary. Just my humble opinion but 2016 gave us the two worst presidential candidates in modern history.
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That's all horserace sportsball nonsense attempting to justify incredibly poor judgement.
 
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That's all horserace sportsball nonsense attempting to justify incredibly poor judgement.
Benghazi or Shark Tank... Anyway we've proven that someone with a room temp IQ can run the country because most of the federal government is a self sustaining buearucratic empire.
 
"There was a large number of independents who voted for the "black man" as you put it in 2008 and 2012 but jumped ship and voted for Trump. "

i would like a citation please.
 
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"There was a large number of independents who voted for the "black man" as you put it in 2008 and 2012 but jumped ship and voted for Trump. "

i would like a citation please.
One study I quickly found while on my lunch break.

"The ANES data show that just over 13% of Trump’s voters backed Obama in 2012, while about 4% of Clinton’s support came from voters who voted for Romney in 2012."

 
One study I quickly found while on my lunch break.

"The ANES data show that just over 13% of Trump’s voters backed Obama in 2012, while about 4% of Clinton’s support came from voters who voted for Romney in 2012."

Swoosh

Also THOSE are the dangerous idiots. I wouldve voted for Cheney before Romney, Clinton, or Obama. Haters gonna hate. That man knows how to play the game.
 
it's probably easier not to fear the worst when your body isn't the type currently having its autonomy stripped away, but I feel like the last several years should be evidence enough that nothing is safe or sacred. even with Roe intact, people have been arrested and imprisoned for miscarriages, people are already afraid to seek or are denied lifesaving care until it's nearly or already too late because of fears of prosecution.

this shit is only going to get worse.