Halp Politics, Politics, Politics... (Not THE abortion thread, but an abortion of a thread nonetheless)

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this makes no sense. Read up on what happened with him.
Oh, that's right. It was Dan Rather that did the thing with the "this one's not true, but the spirit of the thing".

My bad.
I think you need your meds. Not sure where you're making this shit up from. But until then, imma enjoy your fan fiction.
So you're just gonna stick your head in the sand and say "lalalalala".
 
Electricity generation companies better up the wind and solar game then. Last time I checked (which was last month), coal was approximately 1/3 of the fuel used to create electricity.
Wind and solar are EXPLODING right now. Wind is generating so much power that the utilities are begging factories to use it and/or paying these private companies to stop the turbines.

source: I'm reading an interesting book about the grid right now.
 
lolz. The future generations will laugh at the hysteria and drama you alarmist wackos try to create to make yourselves feel good in the absence of reality.

"the oceans slowed. . . the planet began to heal" :lol: The 'feel good' shit you tell yourselves to get by is astounding.

[sarahmclachlanmusic]. . .

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Seriously, please explain how you know more about this than a climate scientist.
 
I'm just glad power sources are getting more diversified. this is better for everyone in the long run.
They actually aren't. Renewables are making the grid more fragile than ever. In theory, we'll eventually fix it, but the entire grid is a patchwork of bandaids that started during the New Deal.
 
Wind and solar are EXPLODING right now. Wind is generating so much power that the utilities are begging factories to use it and/or paying these private companies to stop the turbines.

source: I'm reading an interesting book about the grid right now.

that's not what i'm hearing on the wind front. it's expensive to build a wind farm because you gotta build a coal plant next to it to make up for those times when its not windy and the areas these things get put in often have poor transmission lines to urban areas that actually need the power. it's being heavily subsidized right now, but when that ends the market will drop off heavily.

conglomerate i work for is a huge manufacturer of wind turbines, i used to sit next to a group of wind engineers and heard this stuff day in and day out. i actually worked on a new nacelle facility a few years back, that place lives and dies by the subsidies though. the other problem is nobody wants those wind turbines in their back yard.

solar is the best bet for most places, just need to perfect those batteries which took a huuuuge leap forward the past few years with that tesla thing.
 
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This is when I stopped watching Bill Mahr on a regular basis. On one of his shows he went off on the cattle industry and how cow farts are contributing to global warming. He was dead serious and pissed. And became even more pissed when even the most liberal members of his panel that night laughed at him and started making fart jokes. :lol:
It is the burping cows, not the farting, that is the methane thing
 
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What?

Private money pouring into studies are why there is resistance. The fossil fuels industry is paying unscrupulous people to claim it's not happening.

It's exactly the same thing they did when trying to hide the problems of leaded gas. They publicly lied and deceived people by hiring scientists who would say whatever they were paid to.

That's why there are a thousand scientists supporting the climate change conclusions for every single oil industry shill denying it.
The meat and dairy industries are funding bs research to save their earth-killing industries as well. They threaten and bribe until the parts about the meat industry's huge contributions to global warming are hidden/minimized/deleted in the easily accessible reports.
 
They actually aren't. Renewables are making the grid more fragile than ever. In theory, we'll eventually fix it, but the entire grid is a patchwork of bandaids that started during the New Deal.
If we went to a world-wide power grid, we could get rid of all non-renewables.

But that'll never happen.
 
No I don't, and I think he should stop.
Fortunately, the PRESIDENT will be out on his ass in just 9 days and then PRESIDENT ELECT Trump will be sworn in.

it takes a serious amount of delusion to think that obama has said anything near as bad as what trump says on a daily basis. to the point that if anyone actually believes that then they are a fundamentally bad judge of character
 
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