Halp Politics, Politics, Politics... (Not THE abortion thread, but an abortion of a thread nonetheless)

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Yup. They ducked up. This was stupid and people are running with it like morons. We have confirmation hearings to pay attention to, way more important than this shit.

If any of it ends up being verified then we can hold him accountable then but for meow it's right up there with pizzagate
We agree....finally
 
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And if you think our current level of warming isn't being directly caused by fossil fuel emissions then you are ignoring all of the science that says so. You can't pick and choose what science you trust.
I don't ignore it. I'm all for a clean environment. However the coal and petroleum industry is never going to go away and you're never going to get India and China to clean up their acts. I think some of the "fight" is a losing battle.
 
FUCK that. First of all it would take a very long time for nature to recover from the extinction event the we're causing.

Second, intelligent and sapient life is my priority, not dumb creatures that can't contemplate the nature of the universe. If we die out there's no one left to figure out dark matter, no one left to explore the oceans of Europa, no one left to study quasars and neutron stars.

Humanity is what needs to survive and we need a stable environment to do so.

Intelligent life wouldn't be destroying their own planet. And our understanding of all the crap this idiot species is convinced is 'important' doesn't mean jack shit to the rest of the universe.
 
read this in 'code pink' protestor panic. I bet michael moore could get .50 a ticket more.

just because you're too dense to understand the reality of climate change it doesn't excuse you from being an asshole about it

the silver lining is that future generations will remember people like you as the dangerous idiots you are
 
What makes you so special? Life will go on just fine without people pondering dark matter.

Me? Nothing. None of us are special.

But as a species we are so far the only one we know of that's self aware and capable of pondering such things.

Life may go on just fine but life isn't worth it if there isn't an intelligence capable of understanding and appreciating it.
 
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We agree....finally
yeah I've been saying this the whole time. not like I've changed my mind on anything, the FakeNews™ problem has been real the whole time but because it's been far more prevalent and persistent on the republican side of the fence some people seem to assume it's a partisan issue
 
Me? Nothing. None of us are special.

But as a species we are so far the only one we know of that's self aware and capable of pondering such things.

Life may go on just fine but life isn't worth it if there isn't an intelligence capable of understanding and appreciating it.
Worth is a social construct.
 
Electricity generation companies better up the wind and solar game then. Last time I checked (which was last month), coal was approximately 1/3 of the fuel used to create electricity.
In terms of newly installed capacity, solar beat out coal installations in 2016.

Coal's on its way out, regardless of the Sturm und Drang from Drumpf.
 
I don't ignore it. I'm all for a clean environment. However the coal and petroleum industry is never going to go away and you're never going to get India and China to clean up their acts. I think some of the "fight" is a losing battle.

only because of people who say "oh it's too hard, let's just stop fighting and say fuck you to future generations"

the coal and fossil fuel industries can certainly be made to go away. both india and china are investing more into clean energy than we are because they also see the writing on the wall. we have the opportunity to be at the forefront of developing clean energy and cleaning up the environment but we're instead doubling down on coal because a bunch of poor uneducated white people in the rust belt can't be bothered to learn a new fucking skill

The main reason it's so hard to get rid of coal and petroleum is all the morons who for years have been saying that solar is just a pipe dream and we have plenty of oil for the next few centuries and that climate change is a hoax made up by the chinese.
 
Intelligent life wouldn't be destroying their own planet. And our understanding of all the crap this idiot species is convinced is 'important' doesn't mean jack shit to the rest of the universe.

Of course intelligent life would be destroying the planet. It already is. Intelligence and wisdom are not the same thing.

Of course it doesn't mean jack shit to the rest of the universe because for all we know we're the only things in the universe capable of comprehending anything with meaning. We may be the only way the universe has to contemplate itself.
 
Of course intelligent life would be destroying the planet. It already is. Intelligence and wisdom are not the same thing.

Of course it doesn't mean jack shit to the rest of the universe because for all we know we're the only things in the universe capable of comprehending anything with meaning. We may be the only way the universe has to contemplate itself.
Solipsism. Lol.
Carry on.
 
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Worth is a social construct.

exactly! one that we create and thus we justify with our own experiences

why do you think you said anything profound? do you think I or anyone has claimed that because something is a social construct that it's meaningless? or are you just reaching for anything thread you can find in a discussion you have trouble understanding?
 
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