View Full Version : Cold Case Arrest
Dharma1521
08-16-2006, 06:06 PM
An arrest was just made in the Jon Bennet case, don't you think its odd how many old cases have been solved recently? Jon Bennet for one, BTK killer, Deep Throat . . .
Lance Bass . . . .
Don't you find it odd?
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:08 PM
If the parents really weren't involved I think a lot of people will be absolutely numb with shock. The odds of someone breaking into a family's house, murdering one of their children and then leaving both the body AND a false ransom note at the scene of the crime just defy calculation. If it seems too bizarre to be true then it probably is.
b_sinning
08-16-2006, 06:09 PM
Guess the one armed man did do it.
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:11 PM
Oh and a month and a half after the death of Jon Benet's mom, no less...hmm.
April40
08-16-2006, 06:14 PM
Who are they pointing fingers at? link?
FlamingGlory
08-16-2006, 06:17 PM
LINK OR BS
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=189d522a-0abe-421a-00f3-dded5288de58&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
FlamingGlory
08-16-2006, 06:18 PM
More importantly:
10 years and a million mistakes later the only way ANYONE will be convicted is through a complete comfession.
JPatrick
08-16-2006, 06:18 PM
LINK OR BS
www.cnn.com
More importantly:
10 years and a million mistakes later the only way ANYONE will be convicted is through a complete comfession.
Well thats what happens when you try to railroad someone into a crime...
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:21 PM
More importantly:
10 years and a million mistakes later the only way ANYONE will be convicted is through a complete comfession.
Or if the "foreign" DNA found on Jon Benet's underwear matches this person of interest.
FlamingGlory
08-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Or if the "foreign" DNA found on Jon Benet's underwear matches this person of interest.
With the Denver PD I'd be concerned with the validity of their testing, the evidence is also 10 YEARS OLD, rare is a case decided on physical evidence anyway. Not to mention that whomever this person may be they're going to have an incredibly good alternate suspect defense.
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:28 PM
With the Denver PD I'd be concerned with the validity of their testing, the evidence is also 10 YEARS OLD, rare is a case decided on physical evidence anyway. Not to mention that whomever this person may be they're going to have an incredibly good alternate suspect defense.
I think the prosecution should try to link it to the Kalpoe Brothers.
April40
08-16-2006, 06:32 PM
I think the prosecution should try to link it to the Kalpoe Brothers.
Those KKK guys? If so, I heard it on NPR today. If not, I don't listen well.
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Those KKK guys? If so, I heard it on NPR today. If not, I don't listen well.
No, the Natalee Holloway suspects. Aruba.
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:34 PM
"Sources tell CBS News that he is a 41-year-old American and second-grade schoolteacher and that he will be brought back to the United States this weekend."
"KUSA reported that a man they call a suspect was arrested Wednesday morning and has confessed to certain elements of the crime that are unknown to the general public."
Interesting.
April40
08-16-2006, 06:35 PM
No, the Natalee Holloway suspects. Aruba.
Then I am the latter. Fuck.
With the Denver PD I'd be concerned with the validity of their testing, the evidence is also 10 YEARS OLD, rare is a case decided on physical evidence anyway. Not to mention that whomever this person may be they're going to have an incredibly good alternate suspect defense.
What about all the physical evidence that has freed people? And/or exonorated them from the start? Physical evidence seems like the most important part. Its eyewitness testimony that is fucking useless and shouldn't even be allowed.
Sarcasmo
08-16-2006, 06:45 PM
What about all the physical evidence that has freed people? And/or exonorated them from the start? Physical evidence seems like the most important part. Its eyewitness testimony that is fucking useless and shouldn't even be allowed.
True. It all comes down to the jury though. Grand or trial. Whether they do or don't buy it is the key. I'm not just stating the obvious, my point is that OJ still walked when everything pointed to him. You just never know until that pesky verdict comes in.
FlamingGlory
08-16-2006, 07:00 PM
True. It all comes down to the jury though. Grand or trial. Whether they do or don't buy it is the key. I'm not just stating the obvious, my point is that OJ still walked when everything pointed to him. You just never know until that pesky verdict comes in.
Aye, and I seem to remember that the "foreign" DNA they found was literally thought to be "foreign"; workers in China spittting on their fingers while they packaged clothing.
@Fly:
DNA has freed people, if you go and read the blow by blow judicial opinions though it is normally DNA + other circumstances, like a weak case to begin with. You pick any random murder case: 90% of the time the convictions are based upon eye witness accounts, victim accounts, and circumstantial evidence (like timelines) or confessions. Even though jurors are usually also the stupidest fucking people on the planet, it wont be hard to convince them that hey the Denver PD has been fucking up this case for a decade, they've attempted to railroad people, and now her mother dies and a new DA gets elected then suddenly there is a suspect.
I'm not making predictions but the chances of this turning out to be another complete fuckup are looking very good.
True. It all comes down to the jury though. Grand or trial. Whether they do or don't buy it is the key. I'm not just stating the obvious, my point is that OJ still walked when everything pointed to him. You just never know until that pesky verdict comes in.
I often wonder about that tho. Everything in the media pointed to him, but I have to wonder what it all looked like to a juror who had no access to media reports...
Ryokurin
08-16-2006, 08:55 PM
If the parents really weren't involved I think a lot of people will be absolutely numb with shock. The odds of someone breaking into a family's house, murdering one of their children and then leaving both the body AND a false ransom note at the scene of the crime just defy calculation. If it seems too bizarre to be true then it probably is.
Dollars to doughnuts the conspiracy theorists will find a way to get them involved, similar to how some people say the Enron guy isn't dead, Bush had that woman trying to start case against him killed, oil companies are raiseing prices on purpose etc. They'll probably say some stuff like he got to Thailand because her parents paid for it or some garbage like that.
Dollars to doughnuts the conspiracy theorists will find a way to get them involved, similar to how some people say the Enron guy isn't dead, Bush had that woman trying to start case against him killed, oil companies are raiseing prices on purpose etc. They'll probably say some stuff like he got to Thailand because her parents paid for it or some garbage like that.
What an odd twist of fate the Enron dude dies AFTER being guilty, but before sentencing, thereby clearing him and his family...
FlamingGlory
08-16-2006, 11:02 PM
What an odd twist of fate the Enron dude dies AFTER being guilty, but before sentencing, thereby clearing him and his family...
Uh... Family? It didnt clear him, the conviction stands, it just means he died before punishment.
HydroSqueegee
08-17-2006, 08:28 AM
Patsy Ramsey died? :wtf:
I was in Colorado visiting a friend living in Colorado Springs when this all went down. Was weird seeing it on the local news.
Arátoeldar
08-17-2006, 08:52 AM
Patsy Ramsey died? :wtf:
I was in Colorado visiting a friend living in Colorado Springs when this all went down. Was weird seeing it on the local news.Yes Ovarian cancer in June of this year.
HydroSqueegee
08-17-2006, 09:01 AM
Yes Ovarian cancer in June of this year.
weird...
April40
08-17-2006, 09:03 AM
weird...
How so?
HydroSqueegee
08-17-2006, 09:05 AM
How so?
For the husband thats got to smart. First your daughter is murdered, then your wife dies of cancer. Some divine intervention stuff going on there.
Arátoeldar
08-17-2006, 09:06 AM
weird...
At least she knew that the police were looking at this scum bag for what happen to her daughter.
April40
08-17-2006, 09:09 AM
For the husband thats got to smart. First your daughter is murdered, then your wife dies of cancer. Some divine intervention stuff going on there.
.... you're nuts.
HydroSqueegee
08-17-2006, 09:10 AM
.... you're nuts.
some built up negative karma or something
Uh... Family? It didnt clear him, the conviction stands, it just means he died before punishment.
it cannot be enforced now though, according to the news. I await you flipping through the law book on your desk...
For the husband thats got to smart. First your daughter is murdered, then your wife dies of cancer. Some divine intervention stuff going on there.
Then you hear the theoretical murderer of your daughter on TV saying how he loved JonBenet, knowing damn well that he LOVED her hard before killing her.
Sarcasmo
08-17-2006, 11:02 AM
For the husband thats got to smart. First your daughter is murdered, then your wife dies of cancer. Some divine intervention stuff going on there.
God hates Colorado.
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