online gambling ban

[HydroSqueegee]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13820520/

how does this make you feel? Personally im kind of upset since i wanted to try my hand at it, but on the plus side, I know at least one couple that split because of the guys internet gambling addiction.

guess all good things must come to an end. :(

[JPatrick]

Online gambling is a scam. The "casino" can control everything from their end. They are simply there to take peoples money. At least in a real casino you a chance to win.

[BeerAd]

HOLY BaJEBUSS!!!!!!!

that is not good, not good at all.

When we get really slow at work my boss will drop 500 on Party Poker and we will sit here and play for hours. Solitaire here i come!

[w_a_w]

doesn't bother me at all...I too would rather go to a casino if I was intent on pissing my money away

[Sarcasmo]

If people want to toss some money away, I'm always accepting cash, checks, and money orders.

[BeerAd]

Online gambling is a scam. The "casino" can control everything from their end. They are simply there to take peoples money. At least in a real casino you a chance to win.

Bwhahahahhahah, both are scams made to pay the house and you have a small chance to win in both. Most people can win but its about coming out on top which most dont.

[BeerAd]

If people want to toss some money away, I'm always accepting cash, checks, and gay male sechs.


fxt

[Sarcasmo]

fxt


It'll just be the four of us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/PhatDaddyDamon/whatthefuck.jpg

[elpmis]

this doesn't look good for party poker

[BeerAd]

It'll just be the four of us.

http://img.photobuket.com/albums/v230/PhatDaddyDamon/whatthefuck.jpg

your photobucket name is Phat Daddy Damon :drool: :drool: :drool:

[w_a_w]

this doesn't look good for party poker

they have enough people that they could still keep the free play going based on ad revenue I would think

[inline4]

i played online blackjack once.. the site gave me 25 to try it and i withdrew over 1000 in 2 weeks. Left 40 in there and lost that then quit. Dont even remember the name of it now.

Was fun though :D

[reverendsaintjay]

My old roommate got hooked on Party Poker while on catastrophe duty in Florida 2 or so years ago. He came back with a wallet full of hazard pay and proceeded to blow every penny of it on that site. They tapped him for just under 12k before he 'took steps'* to control his addiction. I can't help but think that this is a good thing, if only to add more hurdles to the process of pissing your money away.


*steps taken: Have me block PartyPoker, PokerAllStars and 4-5 other sites on my computer and the router (by IP addy), reduce his access on my machine to basic user to keep him from installing software or modifying system settings, and giving his computer to his dad for safekeeping.

[ChikkenNoodul]

As long as they don't ban online bum deathmatches, I'll be ok

[wr3kt]

At least in a casino you get free alcohol.

[wr3kt]

However, the counterpoint is that people should be able to control themselves without having to rely on the government babysit everyone. If anything, this is taking away future options of anything related to online gambling and that's bad. Just because it's a "sin" doesn't mean if should be ridden of. I know that thenext bill to ban online pornography may fail, but it will probably get more votes if it doesn't actually pass. Once that passes, we'll see problems of more lobbyists trying to apply religious values to all political decisions.

[elpmis]

At least in a casino you get free alcohol.
"free" if you're a complete bastard and you don't tip the waitress - and the socially acceptable tip is a 5 dollar chip

which means it isn't really free :mad:

[wr3kt]

"free" if you're a complete bastard and you don't tip the waitress - and the socially acceptable tip is a 5 dollar chip

which means it isn't really free :mad:
I tip, but I'm also ordering corona/XX which is typically 3.50-4.50 a bottle, so I don't really care. :P

Also, I'm not a big card player and just chill at flashy slot machines. Hasn't been so bad as we're up 200-something dollars in two days just from jumping penny slots.

[elpmis]

I tip, but I'm also ordering corona/XX which is typically 3.50-4.50 a bottle, so I don't really care. :P

Also, I'm not a big card player and just chill at flashy slot machines. Hasn't been so bad as we're up 200-something dollars in two days just from jumping penny slots.
who's "we're"

where the hell are you talking about?

[wr3kt]

who's "we're"

where the hell are you talking about?

I'm in vegas right now.
"We" = facemachine and me.

[FlamingGlory]

However, the counterpoint is that people should be able to control themselves without having to rely on the government babysit everyone. If anything, this is taking away future options of anything related to online gambling and that's bad. Just because it's a "sin" doesn't mean if should be ridden of. I know that thenext bill to ban online pornography may fail, but it will probably get more votes if it doesn't actually pass. Once that passes, we'll see problems of more lobbyists trying to apply religious values to all political decisions.
Gambling falls into industry regulation. You'd do well to notice that brick and mortar gambling is heavily inspected and liscensed, obviously with the advantage of huge tax revenue, but their devices are at least assured to work in the way they are meant to vis a vis most people dont even know where the houses in online gambling are located or even how they work. More or less the same reason the FDA regulates mediciene.

This is also a blatant move to try and get back at their base. Which is most definitely not going to work, after Roves little wet dream interview about illegal immigrants last night it would take a miracle (or some pro gun legislation) to recapture them. Currently no one hates Bush more than the Republican party.

[b_sinning]

At least in some casinos you get to see indians.

[bast_imret]

I'm in vegas right now.
"We" = facemachine and me.

teleport me out there with you please.

[bast_imret]

DUBL POAST LOL

[Sarcasmo]

Wrekt is getting some internet pussy. :lol:



edit: wear a rubber, dude.

edit 2: why are you on UF if you're in Vegas with what's-her-name? Liar.

[Fat Burger]

Ok, few comments from me:

First of all, online gambling is not rigged, as far as has been researched. Several sites including PokerStars, Poker.com, PartyPoker and others have gone under independant scrutiny. In fact, those regulated in Canada (Poker.com and Absolute off the top of my head) are REQUIRED to be audited.

I have seen reports of hundreds of thousands of poker hands off a couple of different sites, and the probabilities work out exactly the same way as if you were dealing from a deck of cards in your living room. If poker was "rigged" as so many claim, then there would be holes. Nonetheless, I would love to see Stephen Levitt get his hands on this data.

As for non-poker games, why in the world would casinos bother rigging them? Any game played against the house is mathematically unwinnable anyway. There's no point in fixing the blackjack odds so that the house has a .5% edge instead of a .33% edge (the latter being most common).



There is a potential loophole in this law. It is worded to prevent organizations from accepting payment. However, no gambling sites are located in the US in the first place. Besides that, Neteller (the biggest payment portal, like PayPal for gambling) is located completely outside the US.

However, Neteller has banned Maryland, supposedly under pressure from the Canadian government (who was trying to appease Maryland). So who knows how that will pan out.

[SemperFly]

However, the counterpoint is that people should be able to control themselves without having to rely on the government babysit everyone.
yaya; if people want to spend their money gambling, let them

Also, have fun in Vegas and have even more fun in dj. :cool:

[Fat Burger]

...obviously with the advantage of huge tax revenue...

This is the reason the US wants to stop online gambling. They can't figure out how to make money off it, so why not shut it down?

[FlamingGlory]

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:2:./temp/~c109ZPQFvW::

[FlamingGlory]

This is the reason the US wants to stop online gambling. They can't figure out how to make money off it, so why not shut it down?
My backpack's got jets...

But it does fall under interstate commerce and you wont exactly see anyone having gambling 'freedom' high on their list of priorities.

[Fat Burger]

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:2:./temp/~c109ZPQFvW::

Doesn't work.

[FlamingGlory]

Doesn't work.
Goddamn LoC. Go here: http://thomas.loc.gov/ and search by bill number for H.R.4411

It's the actual bill if anyone cares to read it.

[shawndavid]

ill get one of my friends back :)

[HifiGirly]

Mr. HydroSqeegee sir, if you ever gambled online that would be the end for moi et toi. You're luck it was outlawed.

[HydroSqueegee]

Mr. HydroSqeegee sir, if you ever gambled online that would be the end for moi et toi. You're luck it was outlawed.

haha! just a fleeting thought.

[HifiGirly]

haha! just a fleeting thought.

well it can keep fleeting. :heart:

[HifiGirly]

oh yeah and check your email!

[HydroSqueegee]

well it can keep fleeting. :heart:

want to go down to the riverboats this weekend? :hi2u:

[HydroSqueegee]

oh yeah and check your email!

i would if the comgroup knew how to run the servers and not have them down 90% of the time.

[HifiGirly]

want to go down to the riverboats this weekend? :hi2u:
Nope, gotta work sorry.

[HydroSqueegee]

Nope, gotta work sorry.

to bad. get your flashy dress ironed out. I'll pick up a Zoot Suit on the way home, slap $1000 in my pocket and we'll blow it all on roulette and blackjack.

[Fat Burger]

Haha sucker! Everyone knows craps is the guaranteed money.

[eileenbunny]

to bad. get your flashy dress ironed out. I'll pick up a Zoot Suit on the way home, slap $1000 in my pocket and we'll blow it all on roulette and blackjack.

If she won't go, you can take me. I've never been and I have a flashy dress I've been itching to wear. I'll get Dan to take her somewhere nice when you aren't available in exchange.

[HydroSqueegee]

If she won't go, you can take me. I've never been and I have a flashy dress I've been itching to wear. I'll get Dan to take her somewhere nice when you aren't available in exchange.

ive never been either. We took a trip up to Windsor 3 years ago. Good times. Blew $80 on roulette. I got down to $5, won back up to my original $80, then lost it all again. :(

My dad knows a guy who goes to the boars once a year to play the $25 slots. He comes ome with quite a few grand every time. :mad:

[Fat Burger]

Mechanical slots are beatable if you know how, is that what he's playing?

[w_a_w]

Mechanical slots are beatable if you know how, is that what he's playing?


how so? with a crowbar? :p

[bast_imret]

how so? with a crowbar? :p

No, you have to breakdance and impress it with your tight moves and then it gives you free money.

[w_a_w]

No, you have to breakdance and impress it with your tight moves and then it gives you free money.


you know I'm all about that shit

[Fat Burger]

how so? with a crowbar? :p

As described to me by an ex-Caesar's employee, they have a certain preset pattern, and are reset to (I believe) a random spot on that pattern once a day. If you know enough, you can look for ones that are close to payout.

[w_a_w]

As described to me by an ex-Caesar's employee, they have a certain preset pattern, and are reset to (I believe) a random spot on that pattern once a day. If you know enough, you can look for ones that are close to payout.


that sounds totally bogus...why would they allow anything but complete randomness? it's just setting themselves up to be hacked

[wr3kt]

Wrekt is getting some internet pussy. :lol:



edit: wear a rubber, dude.

edit 2: why are you on UF if you're in Vegas with what's-her-name? Liar.
Lol, internet.

I had to update clients' websites and was killing time while media uploaded/downloaded.

[w_a_w]

Lol, internet.

I had to update clients' websites and was killing time while media uploaded/downloaded.


yeah, that's MUCH better than pussy! :p

[KNYTE]

Haha sucker! Everyone knows craps is the guaranteed money.

QFT

[Fat Burger]

that sounds totally bogus...why would they allow anything but complete randomness? it's just setting themselves up to be hacked

Because it's older technology and didn't work as well as they would have liked. I'm guessing individual machines are probably set up differently, so that you'd have to be very familiar with each machine to notice.

This was quite a few years ago, too.

[SpyderGST]

There's no such thing as a true mechanical slot these days. They are all networked PCs with electric motors driving the 'wheels'. All of the calculations for payouts and bonuses and growing jackpots are done in software. The lever and wheels are merely there for that vintage flair.