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b_sinning
07-11-2006, 11:43 PM
My wife commented earlier that very often whenever I visit her while she is cutting hair that after I leave the customers say your husband is very courteous. My first name is Curtis which is suppose to mean courteous but I always think that's an odd thing for them to say becuase I don't notice myself being more polite than I am typically. I guess it's just some of the stuff my parents drilled into me when i was a kid.
So let's discuss the basics as you see them. Add to the list or discuss a rule.
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Always answer a direct question from an elder with a Sir or Ma'am.
Ladies / kids always exit the elevator before guys. Rule varies for couples.
When entering a building, if a person is exiting at the same time, step back and allow them to exit before entering.
Always say Thank You.
Look into the persons eyes that you are addressing
.
Stand at least arms length away from someone when talking to them.
Always open the door for a lady.
Always use a firm grip when shaking hands but don't try to crush.
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My wife's doctor is a close talker and I think he screws with me becuase he can tell I hate that. Whenever we run into him he starts talking at the proper distance and slowly keeps moving closer. During which I slowly keep move back from him so I'm not looking up his nose. We've moved in whole circles during converstations. Drives me nuts.
Thorn Bird
07-11-2006, 11:50 PM
your wife better watch out. i eat men like you for dessert. :D ;) :drool:
Sp`ange
07-11-2006, 11:55 PM
I think I'm courteous. but that's from my point of view.
mikey
07-11-2006, 11:55 PM
For dinners
I know to turn my fork over when I am done eating and place it at the top of my plate. I do it no matter where I am eating, I even do it with family even though most of them would never recognize it. It's a habit. I do the same with all the silverware, water glasses, bread plates and I don't really pay attention to it. My ghetto highschool actually sent me to a dinner to learn all of this.
FlamingGlory
07-11-2006, 11:58 PM
Always answer a direct question from an elder with a Sir or Ma'am.
Sir and ma'am are reserved for addressing military personnelle and cops
Ladies / kids always exit the elevator before guys. Rule varies for couples.
Whomever gets to the elevator first wins!
When entering a building, if a person is exiting at the same time, step back and allow them to exit before entering.
Open door, look mean, and keep moving
Always say Thank You.
Depends... Some people get pissed off if you thank them
Look into the persons eyes that you are addressing
Yes, but it's not etiquette
Stand at least arms length away from someone when talking to them.
Dear lord yes. My personal space is all the space where I can punch you without moving
Always open the door for a lady.
Is she hot? Yes. Is she your g/f? Yes. Everyone else, no.
Always use a firm grip when shaking hands but don't try to crush.
Avoid shaking hands if at all possible. Not everyone washes. If offered a hand look at it, then look at the person like they are retarded.
You'd die in NY. ~.^
b_sinning
07-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Poor manners make even the smartest person seem dumb.
I'm not talking about the super strict Ms. Manners Etiquette but the basic social skills or rules that people should use. Are they really more in grained in the south?
shawndavid
07-12-2006, 12:33 AM
I always get stuck at the fuckin mall holding the door for an hour. I'm a pretty good judge of distance except when people are approaching the door of a public place and I'm the doorstop. I heard someone say one time not to confuse politeness for weakness. That's my mantra, I think.
As far as your doctor goes, if you really think he's doing it to get your goat, I would move in closer every time he did. I'd bump noses just to prove a point.
FlamingGlory
07-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Poor manners make even the smartest person seem dumb.
I'm not talking about the super strict Ms. Manners Etiquette but the basic social skills or rules that people should use. Are they really more in grained in the south?
Public manners differ greatly. What I outlined is as I'd do walking around on a normal day or at work (shaking hands is more an intimidation technique on the job than a part of manners). I dont think I've ever looked straight at someone unless I was berating them, and giving up your seat on public transit or letting kids onto an elevator is like shouting ROB ME.
Doors are tricky. Old people are mean, cripples are mean, and the rest of the general population is so retarded I'm surprised they dont walk into walls. Cute or Hot girls are always shocked if you get the door for them and will normally be chatty because it simply isnt expected. If you dont get the door for a g/f or a friend who is a girl she will likely beat you. There are also hundreds of other little rules.
Private etiquette was beaten into me though. Once someone classes as a friend/acquaintence/fuck buddy there is a whole new set of expected behaviour.
shawndavid
07-12-2006, 12:45 AM
What does peyote taste like, man?
It surely doesn't taste like pussy.
b_sinning
07-12-2006, 12:53 AM
I always get stuck at the fuckin mall holding the door for an hour. I'm a pretty good judge of distance except when people are approaching the door of a public place and I'm the doorstop. I heard someone say one time not to confuse politeness for weakness. That's my mantra, I think.
As far as your doctor goes, if you really think he's doing it to get your goat, I would move in closer every time he did. I'd bump noses just to prove a point.
The doc is an odd guy.
My son loves a tv show called Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. On one of the shows a friend named Wilt gets stuck at a mall for hours holding a door open becuase he's too courteous and people won't stop exiting. It was pretty funny. Actually it's a great show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Foster's_Home_for_Imaginary_Friends_charac ters
eileenbunny
07-12-2006, 09:10 AM
Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends rocks, but it certainly isn't the best show to watch if you want to learn about manners.
I think I'm polite, or at least I try to be. I say please and thank you and I hold doors open for people.
The close talking thing might be cultural. Is the doctor from somewhere else. Keeping your distance while talking is considered rude in some other places in the world. I hate it though. I like my personal space.
reverendsaintjay
07-12-2006, 09:25 AM
Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends rocks, but it certainly isn't the best show to watch if you want to learn about manners.
I think I'm polite, or at least I try to be. I say please and thank you and I hold doors open for people.
The close talking thing might be cultural. Is the doctor from somewhere else. Keeping your distance while talking is considered rude in some other places in the world. I hate it though. I like my personal space.
Working with foreigners has taught me that the idea of 'personal space' is almost exclusively an American/British thing. It's a tough reflex to suppress, but luckily I haven't choked a motherfarker for being all up in my sh*t yet.
Other than that, yes, I'm a reasonably courteous guy. Unless I'm driving. Or you're an idiot. :D
b_sinning
07-12-2006, 09:54 AM
The close talking thing might be cultural. Is the doctor from somewhere else. Keeping your distance while talking is considered rude in some other places in the world. I hate it though. I like my personal space.
Nope the doctor is from here. He's eccentric. An absent minded professor type. He has ADD so you have to make sure to keep him focused or he'll just ramble off into conversation wasteland. That's why I prefer not to use him as a doctor. He's a friend of my wife's family too.
I definitely don't think manners is a sign of weakness. The alpha dog doesn't always have to prove it's the alpha dog. It has a confidence to it that lets everyone know without a doubt that it's dominate and can act as it chooses.
I don't do private and public manners. A little common courteous typically makes everyone act nicer to me in general.
SemperFly
07-12-2006, 10:05 AM
You'd die in NY. ~.^
every time I've been on a NYC subway I've given my seat up for either a lady, child, or senior. they're always very appreciative
Southern hospitality++
edit: I wasn't robbed either. Been to that city three times in the past two years and not once have I worried about being hoodwinked, pickpocketed or mugged. Though I must admit I would have felt a hell of a lot better walking through the park at dusk with a .40 on my hip.
ChikkenNoodul
07-12-2006, 10:28 AM
every time I've been on a NYC subway I've given my seat up for either a lady, child, or senior. they're always very appreciative
Southern hospitality++
edit: I wasn't robbed either. Been to that city three times in the past two years and not once have I worried about being hoodwinked, pickpocketed or mugged. Though I must admit I would have felt a hell of a lot better walking through the park at dusk with a .40 on my hip.
Same here, though I rarely if ever sit on subways at all to begin with.
I've been in NYC countless times at night without any worry at all. Brooklyn on the other hand......drove through Cypress Hill at 2AM thanks to a wrong turn from Yahoo maps (6-7 years ago) and THAT was freaky :omy:
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 10:39 AM
My wife commented earlier that very often whenever I visit her while she is cutting hair that after I leave the customers say your husband is very courteous. My first name is Curtis which is suppose to mean courteous but I always think that's an odd thing for them to say becuase I don't notice myself being more polite than I am typically. I guess it's just some of the stuff my parents drilled into me when i was a kid.
So let's discuss the basics as you see them. Add to the list or discuss a rule.
__________________________________________________ _______________
Always answer a direct question from an elder with a Sir or Ma'am.
Ladies / kids always exit the elevator before guys. Rule varies for couples.
When entering a building, if a person is exiting at the same time, step back and allow them to exit before entering.
Always say Thank You.
Look into the persons eyes that you are addressing
.
Stand at least arms length away from someone when talking to them.
Always open the door for a lady.
Always use a firm grip when shaking hands but don't try to crush.
__________________________________________________ _______________
My wife's doctor is a close talker and I think he screws with me becuase he can tell I hate that. Whenever we run into him he starts talking at the proper distance and slowly keeps moving closer. During which I slowly keep move back from him so I'm not looking up his nose. We've moved in whole circles during converstations. Drives me nuts.
I do all of those regularly but number 1. Number 1 I only do sometimes.
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 10:43 AM
Public manners differ greatly. What I outlined is as I'd do walking around on a normal day or at work (shaking hands is more an intimidation technique on the job than a part of manners). I dont think I've ever looked straight at someone unless I was berating them, and giving up your seat on public transit or letting kids onto an elevator is like shouting ROB ME.
Doors are tricky. Old people are mean, cripples are mean, and the rest of the general population is so retarded I'm surprised they dont walk into walls. Cute or Hot girls are always shocked if you get the door for them and will normally be chatty because it simply isnt expected. If you dont get the door for a g/f or a friend who is a girl she will likely beat you. There are also hundreds of other little rules.
Private etiquette was beaten into me though. Once someone classes as a friend/acquaintence/fuck buddy there is a whole new set of expected behaviour.
rob me? I grew up in NY and was never robbed once. Been to NYC a zillion times and was never robbed once. Never been robbed anywhere period.
SemperFly
07-12-2006, 11:08 AM
Same here, though I rarely if ever sit on subways at all to begin with.
I've been in NYC countless times at night without any worry at all. Brooklyn on the other hand......drove through Cypress Hill at 2AM thanks to a wrong turn from Yahoo maps (6-7 years ago) and THAT was freaky :omy:
rob me? I grew up in NY and was never robbed once. Been to NYC a zillion times and was never robbed once. Never been robbed anywhere period.
Heh. NYC isn't half a tough as its' residents would like the rest of the country to believe. Walk around like you own the fucking place and it's like any other city in the world.
elpmis
07-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Sir and ma'am are reserved for addressing military personnelle and cops
that's retarded, FG
Sarcasmo
07-12-2006, 11:29 AM
I just call everyone Smackface. That way no one's better off than anyone else.
ChikkenNoodul
07-12-2006, 11:33 AM
Heh. NYC isn't half a tough as its' residents would like the rest of the country to believe. Walk around like you own the fucking place and it's like any other city in the world.
Pre-9/11 I got into sooo many office buildings that way :fly:
Just act like you know what you're doing and security left you alone
Sarcasmo
07-12-2006, 11:34 AM
Pre-9/11 I got into sooo many office buildings that way :fly:
Just act like you know what you're doing and security left you alone
What did you do once you got into those buildings? Offices are a bit...boring.
ChikkenNoodul
07-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Pretty much just used the can, and the water cooler
The bathrooms are MUCH nicer there than those publicly available in cities
Sarcasmo
07-12-2006, 11:41 AM
Pretty much just used the can, and the water cooler
The bathrooms are MUCH nicer there than those publicly available in cities
So you're the creepy looking black guy who wanders into our shitter every couple days and stinks up the place, and then gets water all over the sink tops. I always wondered what that was all about.
SemperFly
07-12-2006, 11:53 AM
Pre-9/11 I got into sooo many office buildings that way :fly:
Just act like you know what you're doing and security left you alone
I feel bad that I still haven't gone to Ground Zero :( I will always regret never having seen those buildings in their true glory.
ChikkenNoodul
07-12-2006, 11:58 AM
I'm creepy looking? :(
Sarcasmo
07-12-2006, 11:59 AM
I'm creepy looking? :(
Not "you" literally. But yes.
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 12:32 PM
I always get stuck at the fuckin mall holding the door for an hour. I'm a pretty good judge of distance except when people are approaching the door of a public place and I'm the doorstop. I heard someone say one time not to confuse politeness for weakness. That's my mantra, I think.
As far as your doctor goes, if you really think he's doing it to get your goat, I would move in closer every time he did. I'd bump noses just to prove a point.
I am not entirely positive but I think that phrase was first adopted as "dont mistake my kindness for weakness". It is something I used to have to say quite often until I figured out it is so much easier to be a selfish asshole. With me it takes awhile before I really start showing my kind and helpful side.
SemperFly
07-12-2006, 12:38 PM
I am not entirely positive but I think that phrase was first adopted as "dont mistake my kindness for weakness". It is something I used to have to say quite often until I figured out it is so much easier to be a selfish asshole. With me it takes awhile before I really start showing my kind and helpful side.
I think most people are like that. I tend to be the opposite; I initially give everyone the benefit of the doubt, I extend every courtesy I can until they manage to wrong me. Once someone has truly pissed me off they're on the list. They may not incur my wrath in a timely manner but damned if I ever let anyone skate away without punishment for their sins.
bast_imret
07-12-2006, 12:48 PM
For dinners
I know to turn my fork over when I am done eating and place it at the top of my plate. I do it no matter where I am eating, I even do it with family even though most of them would never recognize it. It's a habit. I do the same with all the silverware, water glasses, bread plates and I don't really pay attention to it. My ghetto highschool actually sent me to a dinner to learn all of this.
What I learned to do was that if you are resting, but still eating, you simply turn your fork over and lay it with the tongs on the plate and the base on the table, similar with the knife. This shows that you are still eating from the plate. When finished, you put the used utensiles directly on the plate, signaling that it's ok for someone to take it away.
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 12:51 PM
I think most people are like that. I tend to be the opposite; I initially give everyone the benefit of the doubt, I extend every courtesy I can until they manage to wrong me. Once someone has truly pissed me off they're on the list. They may not incur my wrath in a timely manner but damned if I ever let anyone skate away without punishment for their sins.
It takes me awhile to show my kindness but I am polite right off the bat. From there you basically have 2 trails you can head down, whichever one you pick is completely up to you.
b_sinning
07-12-2006, 12:54 PM
It takes me awhile to show my kindness but I am polite right off the bat. From there you basically have 2 trails you can head down, whichever one you pick is completely up to you.
Choose your own adventure?
bast_imret
07-12-2006, 12:56 PM
Choose your own adventure?
I loved those books. We also used to make menu driven CYOA stories on our TI-85's back in 9th grade ^_^
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 01:05 PM
Choose your own adventure?
Basically, one ends with bloodshed and the other with happiness, hehe
SemperFly
07-12-2006, 01:05 PM
It takes me awhile to show my kindness but I am polite right off the bat. From there you basically have 2 trails you can head down, whichever one you pick is completely up to you.
red pill 4 me plz
Basically, one ends with bloodshed and the other with happiness, hehe
I was traumatized in 3rd grade when I read one of those and the first ending I choose resulted in the two kids dying on a raft in the middle of the ocean. A line about the girl not being able to cry because she was so dehydrated haunted me for like a week. :confused:
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 01:10 PM
I was traumatized in 3rd grade when I read one of those and the first ending I choose resulted in the two kids dying on a raft in the middle of the ocean. A line about the girl not being able to cry because she was so dehydrated haunted me for like a week. :confused:
OMG I think I vagely remember something about the kids on the raft, lol
oh great I am sad now, brb, tear time:(
InnerMuse
07-12-2006, 03:32 PM
I have some personal car etiquette rules-
1) Passenger gets control of the radio. I need to focus more on not running anyone over and yelling at the bastards that cut me off than to fiddle with the music.
2) On road trips, passenger retrieves coinage for tools and eats first then feeds the driver. Again, hands are busy and it's keeps the spillage down to a minimum.
3) Driver ALWAYS opens the passenger's door. In turn, passenger should open the driver’s door once he/she is in the car.
4) Back-seat drivers are KOS and will be ejected from the vehicle via ejection seats unless they are the designated navigators.
5)"*mmmmmmmkhhheck* This is your captain schpeaking. We are experiencing some !!Tuuuurbulllaaannnnnccce!!!! *shake the back of the seat"
This action if forbidden to inflict on the driver. The passenger, however, is fair game.
6) Thanking the person who let you in by waving is a much-required courtesy. It's also a good idea to apologize to someone in this same manner if you happen to cut them off.
7) Florida drivers should be shot for not using their blinkers...damnit. How the eff am I going to know you are turning if you don't use your friggin’ blinker... bastards.
eileenbunny
07-12-2006, 03:38 PM
I have some personal car etiquette rules-
1) Passenger gets control of the radio. I need to focus more on not running anyone over and yelling at the bastards that cut me off than to fiddle with the music.
2) On road trips, passenger retrieves coinage for tools and eats first then feeds the driver. Again, hands are busy and it's keeps the spillage down to a minimum.
3) Driver ALWAYS opens the passenger's door. In turn, passenger should open the driver’s door once he/she is in the car.
4) Back-seat drivers are KOS and will be ejected from the vehicle via ejection seats unless they are the designated navigators.
5)"*mmmmmmmkhhheck* This is your captain schpeaking. We are experiencing some !!Tuuuurbulllaaannnnnccce!!!! *shake the back of the seat"
This action if forbidden to inflict on the driver. The passenger, however, is fair game.
6) Thanking the person who let you in by waving is a much-required courtesy. It's also a good idea to apologize to someone in this same manner if you happen to cut them off.
7) Florida drivers should be shot for not using their blinkers...damnit. How the eff am I going to know you are turning if you don't use your friggin’ blinker... bastards.
I'll agree with most of this except that I fully believe the driver gets control of the radio. If I'm driving I need the right kind of music to motivate me and passengers can pick out crap that might just aggrevate me. The driver must have control over this.
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 03:42 PM
I'll agree with most of this except that I fully believe the driver gets control of the radio. If I'm driving I need the right kind of music to motivate me and passengers can pick out crap that might just aggrevate me. The driver must have control over this.
At least you wouldnt know what category it was :fly:
InnerMuse
07-12-2006, 03:57 PM
I'll agree with most of this except that I fully believe the driver gets control of the radio. If I'm driving I need the right kind of music to motivate me and passengers can pick out crap that might just aggrevate me. The driver must have control over this.
You see, that is solved by one simple factor. I have no antenna and therefore they can only pick from my cd selection. MWAhahahah!
eileenbunny
07-12-2006, 03:59 PM
You see, that is solved by one simple factor. I have no antenna and therefore they can only pick from my cd selection. MWAhahahah!
I have friends that travel with cds all the time. :(
InnerMuse
07-12-2006, 04:03 PM
I have friends that travel with cds all the time. :(
Lucky for me, my friends don't unless we're road tripping.
FlamingGlory
07-12-2006, 04:15 PM
rob me? I grew up in NY and was never robbed once. Been to NYC a zillion times and was never robbed once. Never been robbed anywhere period.
I dont live in NYC. Durr. I've almost been robbed three times in the last year, mostly at the mall. Live in one of those scummy upstate cities remember.
FlamingGlory
07-12-2006, 04:16 PM
that's retarded, FG
You're retarded. :cool:
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 04:32 PM
I dont live in NYC. Durr. I've almost been robbed three times in the last year, mostly at the mall. Live in one of those scummy upstate cities remember.
I grew up in albany and I mentioned NYC because it used to be the crime capital of the world at one point...DURRRRRR
edit: and :lol: at you hanging at the mall...that would seemingly go against the grain of all your brooding and angst
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 04:39 PM
You see, that is solved by one simple factor. I have no antenna and therefore they can only pick from my cd selection. MWAhahahah!
If only you had Deftones - Passenger!!!!!!!!
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 04:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/tithead99/sonanddad.jpg
BeerAd
07-12-2006, 04:42 PM
http://img.photobucketcom/albums/v471/tithead99/sonanddad.jpg
BWAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
your photobucket name is Tithead, classic :fly:
oh yeah, funny cartoon too!
b_sinning
07-12-2006, 04:43 PM
edit: and :lol: at you hanging at the mall...that would seemingly go against the grain of all your brooding and angst
FG is actually Brody from Mallrats.
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/brody.jpg
FlamingGlory
07-12-2006, 04:46 PM
I grew up in albany and I mentioned NYC because it used to be the crime capital of the world at one point...DURRRRRR
edit: and :lol: at you hanging at the mall...that would seemingly go against the grain of all your brooding and angst
I dont hang out at the mall. I worked there :(
Albany is rather nice compared to Syracuse. :P
Sarcasmo
07-12-2006, 04:54 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/tithead99/sonanddad.jpg
:lol:
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 05:04 PM
BWAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
your photobucket name is Tithead, classic :fly:
oh yeah, funny cartoon too!
I'd like to take credit for being tithead but I am not :)
InnerMuse
07-12-2006, 05:06 PM
If only you had Deftones - Passenger!!!!!!!!
oooh, once again, I've gotsta change ma pants.:drool:
b_sinning
07-12-2006, 05:06 PM
I'd like to take credit for being tithead but I am not :)
You will always be a tithead to us.
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 05:07 PM
You will always be a tithead to us.
you always say the nicest things! :fly:
mikey
07-12-2006, 05:54 PM
I'd like to take credit for being tithead but I am not :)
Isn't evildre tithead?
w_a_w
07-12-2006, 05:58 PM
Isn't evildre tithead?
dunno...I just ganked it from gm
mikey
07-12-2006, 06:07 PM
dunno...I just ganked it from gm
I still can't remember my password :lol:
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