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I Robert I
05-27-2006, 07:22 PM
Just because he asked for it.

NERD TIME!

I just recently got this little beuty. It's a custom light made from a MagLite body (pewter colour in my case), a custom batteryholder, a UCL lens (UltraClear Lens) or was it borofloat... don't remember, a smooth aluminium reflector reamed to accept the bigger bulb and a 10W HID bulb (Osram solarc IIRC) + ballast. It goes by the name MiniMiniHID or "5 inch wonder" (lolol).

It is run off of 3 unprotected R123's (rechargeable "camera batteries") and has a runtime of about 30-40 minutes. The maker of this light wasn't going for long runtime, he was going for fucking tiny package with a lot of punch.

It takes a few seconds to warm up but once it gets to full power it is quite impressive for its size. It will easily outhrow most things in its size. I tried to get a few pics of the warm up but since I was shooting fully manual I didn't really have time to change shutter speed and shoot at the same time, so no pics of that. It looks pretty neato though. Think of it as burning magnesium that slowly gains intensity and a few flashes of amber here and there.

http://files.badlysprained.net/out/183/uf/miniminhid/miniminihid_01.jpg
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/184/uf/miniminhid/miniminihid_02.jpg
Internals, the AAA battery is just in there for scale.
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/185/uf/miniminhid/miniminihid_03.jpg



I also finally completed my Mag85. The Mag85 is a completely different beast. It is what is commonly known as a "hotwire". Reason being that it's a incandescent bulb driven to its full potential and cause well... they get fucking hot, fast. Basically it's a 3D Mag host (seeing a trend here?), a "Fivemega" 9AA->3D holder, a Kiu high temp ceramic socket (the standard socket tends to melt and has high resistance), a borofloat lens (again, the stock part will quickly melt), an aluminium reflector (melting stock parts being the reason once more. In my case it is a medium stipple variant that smooths out the beam sacrificing some throw), a WA1185 bi-pin bulb and finally an added bonus that I put in, a PIR1 regulator.

This thing will spew out around 700-800 lumens out the front. IIRC a standard 3D mag puts out something like 30-40 lumens or so. Using the batterys I'm using (CBP1650's) it has a runtime of about 30 minutes untill low voltage protection kicks in. The protection comes from the PIR1 regulator that a fellow swede makes. It's a small circuit that is fully programmable either via USB or via the switch and LEDs on the board. You can set the soft start time (to slowly heat up the bulb to avoid it burning out right away. By slow I mean 200ms - 1 second depending on bulb), cut off voltage, temperature cut off, three different light levels and such. A nifty little piece of engineering.

You'll only be able to hold your hand infront of the lens of this light for a few seconds before the heat forces you to take it away. It's quite impressive. I'm too lazy to take pics of my unit so I'll get some pictures from the different manufacturers instead.

Fivemega battery holder (the thing furthest down in the pic):
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/186/uf/miniminhid/9AAto3D.jpg

The regulator, front and back:
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/188/uf/miniminhid/front.pnghttp://files.badlysprained.net/out/187/uf/miniminhid/back.png

Kiu high temp ceramic socket. The bulb I'm using is the one on the left:
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/189/uf/miniminhid/kiusocket.jpg

I think you can imagine what a relector and lens looks like so I'll leave those out.


There, how's that for a nerd post? :)

FlamingGlory
05-27-2006, 07:31 PM
Average 100watt incandescent bulb is 1700 lumens... How many $$?

Warm up time kinda kills tactical effectivity but it is very cool.

I Robert I
05-27-2006, 07:35 PM
Well, I could probably compute this from your post but how many watts/candelas?

Warm up time kinda kills tactical effectivity but it is very cool.
The HID is a 10W and the 1185 is about 30-35 depending on how hard you drive it. I think that's right.

Candelas, meh no idea. Lumens is where it's at ;) The Mag85 as I said is around 700-800 out the front (again depending on how hard you drive it) and the MMHid is around 500-600 according to the guys who builds them.

edit: Warm up time is really only an "issue" with the HID. The Mag85 is at full power within half a second and will kill anyones night vision real quick like.

April40
05-27-2006, 07:40 PM
I was thinking fleshlight. So what is up with this infatuation?

FlamingGlory
05-27-2006, 07:43 PM
The HID is a 10W and the 1185 is about 30-35 depending on how hard you drive it. I think that's right.

Candelas, meh no idea. Lumens is where it's at ;) The Mag85 as I said is around 700-800 out the front (again depending on how hard you drive it) and the MMHid is around 500-600 according to the guys who builds them.

edit: Warm up time is really only an "issue" with the HID. The Mag85 is at full power within half a second and will kill anyones night vision real quick like.
Keke, you caught my ninja. One lumen is the luminous flux of light produced by a source that emits one candela of luminous intensity over a solid angle of one steradian. ^.^ I hate trying to do it in my head, I just turn everything on and like "bright", "not so bright" etc.

Gen3 NV has autofilters on it, at least most of the US stuff. For $10k a tube it had better anyway. Had one of these strapped on my rifle for like 3 months but I sold it as part of a package, want another now. http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main.pl?pgm=co_disp&func=displ&strfnbr=6&prrfnbr=1178&sesent=0,0

120 lumens instantly, enough to blind the neighbors at 50 yards.

I Robert I
05-27-2006, 07:43 PM
I was thinking fleshlight. So what is up with this infatuation?
Most intarweb people seem to do just that.
I dunno, it's a hobby just like people who collect stamps, movies or fapkins. They intrigue me, I like to learn about new technology that is coming (LEDs are marching ahead).

FlamingGlory
05-27-2006, 07:44 PM
I was thinking fleshlight. So what is up with this infatuation?
Really bright fucking flashlights. They are fun.

I Robert I
05-27-2006, 07:49 PM
Keke, you caught my ninja. One lumen is the luminous flux of light produced by a source that emits one candela of luminous intensity over a solid angle of one steradian. ^.^ I hate trying to do it in my head, I just turn everything on and like "bright", "not so bright" etc.

Gen3 NV has autofilters on it, at least most of the US stuff. For $10k a tube it had better anyway. Had one of these strapped on my rifle for like 3 months but I sold it as part of a package, want another now. http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main.pl?pgm=co_disp&func=displ&strfnbr=6&prrfnbr=1178&sesent=0,0

120 lumens instantly, enough to blind the neighbors at 50 yards.
I'm with you on the just turn it on and see if it's bright or not :) You lost me on the Gen3NV and $10k tube? :confused:

If you think 120 lumens is bright I think you'd like the output of the Mag85 :) It really is pretty much instantenous, especially if you run it without a regulator like 99% of all people do. You should build one :) 6 times the output of that SureFire at a third of the cost :) It's bigger though hehe.

I haven't seen any 100W bulbs in person but I'll probably build or buy a pre-built one eventually. I think one of the guys over at CPF is working on a turnkey kit.

fly
05-27-2006, 07:57 PM
Awesome post. Can you put some stock parts back on one of them and take vids of them melting? :fly:

My last projector was 1100 lumens and was loud as fuck. I can only image a 700 lumen BATTERY powered flashlight.

FlamingGlory
05-27-2006, 08:03 PM
I'm with you on the just turn it on and see if it's bright or not :) You lost me on the Gen3NV and $10k tube? :confused:

If you think 120 lumens is bright I think you'd like the output of the Mag85 :) It really is pretty much instantenous, especially if you run it without a regulator like 99% of all people do. You should build one :) 6 times the output of that SureFire at a third of the cost :) It's bigger though hehe.

I haven't seen any 100W bulbs in person but I'll probably build or buy a pre-built one eventually. I think one of the guys over at CPF is working on a turnkey kit.
You said it'd kill anyones night vision real quick. Night vision, what I've gotten to play with anyway, usually has some kinda light sensing thing that will kill it when it gets flashed.

I have been looking for stuff to do, in my unemployment :mad: The surefire costs so much because it's shock asorbent and has mounts, that's about it.

This is mostly interesting because tactical lights are like the new 'cool' for weapons enthusiasts. :D

Not mine, light on the left. (Also not airsoft :cran: )
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/Lights/bw-sf.jpg

I Robert I
05-27-2006, 08:08 PM
Awesome post. Can you put some stock parts back on one of them and take vids of them melting? :fly:

My last projector was 1100 lumens and was loud as fuck. I can only image a 700 lumen BATTERY powered flashlight.
I'd rather not :p Here's a couple of pictures from someone else though. The first is a stock reflector that has been melted by the same HID lamp that I have:
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/190/uf/dsc00645red8008mv.jpg

I'm not quite sure what the hell happened here but it could well be overheating that caused this. That's a PIR1 in there aswell btw:
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/191/uf/10102402wf.jpg

I Robert I
05-27-2006, 08:12 PM
You said it'd kill anyones night vision real quick. Night vision, what I've gotten to play with anyway, usually has some kinda light sensing thing that will kill it when it gets flashed.

I have been looking for stuff to do, in my unemployment :mad: The surefire costs so much because it's shock asorbent and has mounts, that's about it.

This is mostly interesting because tactical lights are like the new 'cool' for weapons enthusiasts. :D

Not mine, light on the left. (Also not airsoft :cran: )
[ img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/Lights/bw-sf.jpg[/img]
Ah, I probably worded it badly. By night vision I meant someone with dark adapted eyes hehe. But it just might fry a set of old goggles though :)

Not only that, they are top notch quality and comes with a you break it we fix it guarantee. There have been some serious QC issues with one of their latest lights though, the U2. Waaaay too many reports of failing switches and serious donut holes. Getting replacement switches have been sloooow. Pretty bad when you pay that kinda money for a light. I own just one SF, the L4. It has been working great so far.

Sp`ange
05-27-2006, 11:23 PM
I have a 4D Maglite. It comes on everytime and I can shine it on anything as far as two houses over. Plus, I could blugeon someone with it.

I Robert I
05-28-2006, 07:12 AM
I have a 4D Maglite. It comes on everytime and I can shine it on anything as far as two houses over. Plus, I cold blugeon someone with it.
These aren't my pics but they illustrate the difference quite well.

Stock 3D Mag (should be pretty comparable to your 4D):
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/193/uf/basement1.jpg

Mag85 :)
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/194/uf/basement2.jpg

Sp`ange
05-28-2006, 10:46 AM
These aren't my pics but they illustrate the difference quite well.

Stock 3D Mag (should be pretty comparable to your 4D):
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/193/uf/basement1.jpg

Mag85 :)
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/194/uf/basement2.jpg

well, I guess if I had $100 to blow on a handheld solution for lighting my house, a Mag85 would be a good buy.

Oh yeah, I also have a 2 AA Maglite too. I keep that one in the car.

fly
05-28-2006, 11:02 AM
These aren't my pics but they illustrate the difference quite well.

Stock 3D Mag (should be pretty comparable to your 4D):
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/193/uf/basement1.jpg

Mag85 :)
http://files.badlysprained.net/out/194/uf/basement2.jpg
Holy shit. Doubles as a camera flash. :lol:

I Robert I
05-28-2006, 12:16 PM
well, I guess if I had $100 to blow on a handheld solution for lighting my house, a Mag85 would be a good buy.

Oh yeah, I also have a 2 AA Maglite too. I keep that one in the car.
You should get yourself an SMJLED or something similar for that minimag. You'll increase both output and runtime by quite a bit. And they are very cheap, something like 5 bucks or so:
http://home.mchsi.com/~lambda_lights/smjled.htm

elpmis
05-28-2006, 10:25 PM
holy shit, awesome thread A++++

Arátoeldar
05-28-2006, 11:07 PM
holy shit, awesome thread A++++Will read again.

elpmis
05-29-2006, 12:16 AM
what would be gained if you switched to a halogen bi-pin? el oh el

I Robert I
05-29-2006, 12:19 PM
what would be gained if you switched to a halogen bi-pin? el oh el
Well considering that the 1185 IS a halogen bulb, not much ;)

elpmis
05-29-2006, 12:48 PM
Well considering that the 1185 IS a halogen bulb, not much ;)
:nod:

fly
05-29-2006, 01:33 PM
How much does this hobby cost?

I Robert I
05-29-2006, 01:49 PM
How much does this hobby cost?
Well as with any other hobby it all depends on how serious you want to get. I haven't really kept track of how much I've spent. I'm gonna go ahead and try to do a quick count

*fires up calc.exe*
*gets a bit scared and don't want to continue counting*
*remembers that it has been spread out over more than two years*
*relaxes a bit*
*puts flamesuit on*

I'd guestimate that I've spent $800-$900 but it's probably more counting batteries and other accessories.

*suddenly remembers the three green lasers he has bought (out of which he broke one)*

But that's really nothing when you compare it to what normal people spend on smokes, drinks, beer and things of that nature. And compared to what some of the real hardcore flashaholics (that's what we call ourselves lolol) spend I have a loooong way to go. Some of these guys will gladly pay 300-400 bucks up front on a light that hasn't even left the drawing board yet. They're nuts.

b_sinning
05-29-2006, 01:51 PM
Until A minute ago I had been reading the title as fleshlight and had not even opened the thread. lol.

I Robert I
05-29-2006, 01:58 PM
Until A minute ago I had been reading the title as fleshlight and had not even opened the thread. lol.
Seems most intarwebnet people do that. And as of a while ago it actually says "fleshlight" so it's ok hehe

b_sinning
05-29-2006, 02:07 PM
How did you get into flashlights? I'de love to make something bright like that and wire it to motion sensors.

JPatrick
05-29-2006, 02:09 PM
I was at frys electronics the other day, and noticed they had 2 entire aisles dedicated to flashlights and flashlight technology. First thing I thought was "I bet that swedish fgt would spoo right in his pants if he saw this"
:fly:

b_sinning
05-29-2006, 02:14 PM
lol @ drool...I love building stuff like this but never seem to have the free time and the knowledge now days.

The dashlights behind the instraments in my backup car, 82 diesel mercedes are burnt/shorted out and are a bitch to replace. I stumbled across a website where a guy had just wired some ultrabright leds into the front of the dash that spotlighted the instraments and looked pretty cool. The guy that did the project also said it's such a bitch to replace or fix the backlight is why he did it.

I Robert I
05-29-2006, 02:24 PM
How did you get into flashlights? I'de love to make something bright like that and wire it to motion sensors.
To be completely honest I'm not really sure. I never had many flashlights or any real interest in them as a kid. It pretty much started 2-3 years ago when I laid eyes on the legendary Arc-AAA and Arc4+
http://www.ditdo.com/arc-aaa-bk-and-le_1_.jpg
(the one on the left):
http://www.zknives.com/flshlit/fimgtmpl.shtml?/images/flshlit/lngb/sclux4.jpg

It all went down hill from there. I never actually got an Arc4+ back then I thought the price for one was redicolous. Had it been today it would've been a very different story :D
I was at frys electronics the other day, and noticed they had 2 entire aisles dedicated to flashlights and flashlight technology. First thing I thought was "I bet that swedish fgt would spoo right in his pants if he saw this"
:fly:
Nah, I bet they were too plain for my taste ;)

Sarcasmo
05-29-2006, 03:05 PM
So let me get this straight. Building flashlights is actually a hobby for some people?

I Robert I
05-29-2006, 03:07 PM
So let me get this straight. Building flashlights is actually a hobby for some people?
Some people make a good living building flashlights.

b_sinning
05-29-2006, 03:23 PM
So let me get this straight. Building flashlights is actually a hobby for some people?


Some people collecting beanie babies. I think flashlights are a far more illuminating hobby.

fly
05-29-2006, 04:11 PM
flashaholics (that's what we call ourselves lolol)
I think you should call yourselves Illuminati

Sarcasmo
05-29-2006, 09:04 PM
I think flashlights are a far more illuminating hobby.


You should probably die for a pun like that. Let me check the Texas Penal Code.

b_sinning
05-29-2006, 11:17 PM
You should probably die for a pun like that. Let me check the Texas Penal Code.


This isn't just another excuse to show us your penis is it? If so we'll have to get I Robert I started working on a even stronger model so we can see it. ;)

Sarcasmo
05-30-2006, 12:32 AM
This isn't just another excuse to show us your penis is it? If so we'll have to get I Robert I started working on a even stronger model so we can see it. ;)


I need to hang out at a website where people don't know me. :(

JPatrick
05-30-2006, 08:25 AM
DAMON KICKS ASS!

fly
05-30-2006, 10:15 AM
DAMON KICKS ASS!
damonkicksass.myspace.penis

Sarcasmo
05-30-2006, 10:46 AM
DAMON KICKS ASS!

Whatev yo. That's so two weeks ago. It's Flamin' Damon now.

fly
05-30-2006, 10:51 AM
Whatev yo. That's so two weeks ago. It's Flamin' Damon now.
Since when is Flamin Damon new?

Sarcasmo
05-30-2006, 11:17 AM
Since when is Flamin Damon new?


It's new on my profile. :fly:

:haaay: