How far would you go to lose weight? [Archive]

zengirl

03-28-2006, 01:15 PM

So I heard an ad on the radio on my way to work this morning about a research study offering $1000 to individuals who are willing to try a new diet program. They mentioned a website and I made a mental note of it. Seemed interesting. Who doesn't want to lose weight and get paid a grand for it??? Talk about motivation!!

I get to work, pull up the website, answer their little questionaire and quickly become congratulated on being accepted to their program! I'm then instructed to call an 800 number to talk with a "diet counselor".

After talking to his lady for a few minutes, I realize I'm being pitched. Basically the diet plan entails an every other day diet. Every other day we eat these wafers made from some organic root, and all the fruit we desire, and alternate days we eat as we normally would. The plan provides a 90 day supply of these wafers as well as vitamin supplements... all for the bargain price of $300. (Which is fully refundable upon completion of the program)

Now, my red flags went off as soon as this lady asked for my credit card number, but I figured, what the heck? Why not? I was going to do NutriSystem anyway and that is $300 for 28 days, so why not take a chance on this?

So the deal is, they send me my 90 day supply of wafers, vitamins, and paperwork, I go to a doctor and get my current weight documented... I follow the program for 90 days, at the end of which I go to a doctor again to get my weight documented, then I write a testimonial (omg I could be in a weight loss commercial!! nyuk nyuk) and after that's all done, I get my $1000 as well as my $300 back, and I lose this annoying 30 pounds I'm carrying around with as little effort as possible.

So worst case scenario, I'm out $300, best case, I get my $300 back, make $1k, I'm back to a single digit pant size and could possibly get to be in a diet commercial.

This will be interesting

itburnswhenipee

03-28-2006, 01:18 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/itburnswhenipee/GP2104.jpg

Tapeworm. Works every time.

zengirl

03-28-2006, 01:18 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/itburnswhenipee/GP2104.jpg

Tapeworm. Works every time.
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/eatingfortwo.jpg

KNYTE

03-28-2006, 01:23 PM

I wonder what circumstances force you to lose your $1000. You should probably check the fine print, because I imagine they have all kinds of crazy exclusions that might keep you from getting it.

I've never had a problem with weight thus far. My genetics have (thankfully) kept me from having to worry about it. I eat pretty much whatever I feel like whenever I feel like it.

Sure, I go through points where I get "soft" if don't work out, but I can build back up after 3-5 weeks when I choose to.

SemperFly

03-28-2006, 01:34 PM

and I lose this annoying 30 pounds I'm carrying around with as little effort as possible.

http://www.amli.com/static/images/CommunityPhotos/ospreylake-cam-414x307-fit.jpg

:P

Bubbles

03-28-2006, 01:44 PM

http://www.amli.com/static/images/CommunityPhotos/ospreylake-cam-414x307-fit.jpg

:P

Whoa, slow down there....that looks like alot of effort :omy:

zengirl

03-28-2006, 01:48 PM

Whoa, slow down there....that looks like alot of effort :omy:
That's what I'm saying.

That's a whole lotta cuttin into my couch time

April40

03-28-2006, 01:51 PM

http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/eatingfortwo.jpg

BWAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA good stuff.

mikey

03-28-2006, 02:10 PM

and here i have this silly problem where i have to take pills to gain weight

JPatrick

03-28-2006, 02:15 PM

I think someone just scammed you out of three hundred bucks

Candy

03-28-2006, 02:15 PM

Definatly keep us in the loop as this progresses. Who coulden't use $1000.00?

b_sinning

03-28-2006, 02:22 PM

NutriSystem is a better way to go.

Or just take Clenbuterol. If you can't lose some weight on Clen then you're probably dead.

mikey

03-28-2006, 02:22 PM

Definatly keep us in the loop as this progresses. Who coulden't use $1000.00?

that reminds me, have you seen the scoomba? you'd appreciate it :fly: gonna have to get one for my kitchen and living room.

zengirl

03-28-2006, 02:24 PM

I think someone just scammed you out of three hundred bucks
Actually only $150. The rest is paid monthly.

We'll see if I'm actually scammed or not.

Candy

03-28-2006, 02:24 PM

NutriSystem is a better way to go.

Or just take Clenbuterol. If you can't lose some weight on Clen then you're probably dead.

Wish I could get my hands on some of that..:drool:

Candy

03-28-2006, 02:26 PM

that reminds me, have you seen the scoomba? you'd appreciate it :fly: gonna have to get one for my kitchen and living room.

OMFG I LOVE it! I just mentioned it to Shawn the other day. I can't imagine a life without a vac or a mop. ;)

mikey

03-28-2006, 02:26 PM

Wish I could get my hands on some of that..:drool:

just ordered some for my room mate

zengirl

03-28-2006, 02:27 PM

Wish I could get my hands on some of that..:drool:
I didn't want to take a medication because I'm hypersensitive to that kind of stuff. Diet pills, caffeine pills, energy pills, that's all ruled out.

They aren't charging me the second $75 till next month (if they do, then I'll know it's a scam and my cc has fraud protection)

And this way I can still drink mass quantities. :fly: (Just every other day)

Candy

03-28-2006, 02:30 PM

I didn't want to take a medication because I'm hypersensitive to that kind of stuff. Diet pills, caffeine pills, energy pills, that's all ruled out.

They aren't charging me the second $75 till next month (if they do, then I'll know it's a scam and my cc has fraud protection)

And this way I can still drink mass quantities. :fly: (Just every other day)

SOLD!

zengirl

03-28-2006, 02:31 PM

SOLD!
:lol: Rite????

Because that's all that REALLY matters

SemperFly

03-28-2006, 02:33 PM

Actually only $150. The rest is paid monthly.

We'll see if I'm actually scammed or not.
if you put it on a Visa then you're safe; worst case you file a fraud claim or something stating that they ripped you off and you get your bling back. I have no idea what the consumer protection policies for other cards are

NutriSystem is a better way to go.

Or just take Clenbuterol. If you can't lose some weight on Clen then you're probably dead.
I don't get how the NutriSystem works....you're paying money to have someone else restrict your diet? Or is their food really that much healthier than you'd get by spending the same at the grocery store buying healthy foods?

Clenbuterol, on the other hand...dude, I wouldn't trust that shit. I can't see taking pills to alter weight unless there's some serious medical condition associated with that.

eat healthier, get more excercise. :P not that difficult. not saying one should go out and overpay for all organic foods and count calories and spend two hours at the gym every day but cutting out artificial sweeteners and reducing the amount of processed food you take in along with some sheer and simple walking or jogging every single day is going to be cheaper and safer than taking some drug. not to mention losing weight is nothing more than a vanity issue; being healthy is a different thing altogether and the latter option actually promotes good health, taking pills just makes you drop weight and not necessarily in a good way

b_sinning

03-28-2006, 02:33 PM

Wonder how bad those waffers are going to taste.

Nutrisystem they count the calories for you and provide healthy food.

fly

03-28-2006, 02:35 PM

So, I have this new diet plan. For only $250... CALL ME NOW - ALL LINES OPEN

Candy

03-28-2006, 02:37 PM

just ordered some for my room mate

Aren't you coming down in two weeks???

:shifty:

KNYTE

03-28-2006, 02:38 PM

So, I have this new diet plan. For only $250... CALL ME NOW - ALL LINES OPEN

Is this the one where people have sex constantly until they burn the weight off?

mikey

03-28-2006, 02:38 PM

Aren't you coming down in two weeks???

:shifty:

three ;)

or almost three, some crap like that

zengirl

03-28-2006, 02:39 PM

Wonder how bad those waffers are going to taste.

Nutrisystem they count the calories for you and provide healthy food.
Yeah but then when you get the munchies you're stuck, or you cheat.

And when lunch is catered at work, you can't partake at all, for the entire duration of your diet.

At least this way it's only every other day and I won't feel deprived or anything.

w_a_w

03-28-2006, 02:48 PM

Is this the one where people have sex constantly until they burn the weight off?

I patented that one over a decade ago :P

lil, you're going to be living off these and vitamins for the next 90 days?? :eek:
http://www.economycandy.com/store/images/NeccoWafers2.02oz.JPG

FlamingGlory

03-28-2006, 02:54 PM

Dude, for $300 I wouldve come to WI, followed you around, and slapped you everytime you tried eat something.

KNYTE

03-28-2006, 02:55 PM

Dude, for $300 I wouldve come to WI, followed you around, and slapped you everytime you tried eat something.

:lol:

zengirl

03-28-2006, 02:58 PM

Dude, for $300 I wouldve come to WI, followed you around, and slapped you everytime you tried eat something.
:lol:

but I like to eat

b_sinning

03-28-2006, 03:04 PM

:lol:

but I like to eat

Then that is your problem.

Coqui

03-28-2006, 03:04 PM

:lol:

but I like to eat

Every other day you won't be slapped

elpmis

03-28-2006, 03:07 PM

let's just hope those waffers don't taste like shit

FlamingGlory

03-28-2006, 03:08 PM

:lol:

but I like to eat
Seems like the problem. :P

Coqui

03-28-2006, 03:09 PM

Seems like the problem. :P

I'm a self admitted glutton. You just have to work out more if you want to eat

SchmilK

03-28-2006, 03:12 PM

Here's my goal.

http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/gregvalentino.jpg

Except my bicep isn't going to pop.

http://www.greggvalentino.net/

Watched a show last night about this guy and was ready to puke...

FlamingGlory

03-28-2006, 03:12 PM

I'm a self admitted glutton. You just have to work out more if you want to eat
I get puking sick on just about anything that is too greasy or sweet. Also lift compulsively, but I suck at the aerobic conditioning.

zengirl

03-28-2006, 03:14 PM

SchmilK

03-28-2006, 03:15 PM

skrew lifting..that's the effects of ALOT fo steroids...and well yeah some lifting

itburnswhenipee

03-28-2006, 03:15 PM

FlamingGlory

03-28-2006, 03:16 PM

skrew lifting..that's the effects of ALOT fo steroids...and well yeah some lifting
Who are you replying to here...? Your post showed up when I was replying to Coqui... :confused:

SemperFly

03-28-2006, 03:18 PM

I get puking sick on just about anything that is too greasy or sweet. Also lift compulsively, but I suck at the aerobic conditioning.
sign up for muay thai, you'll get the best of both worlds :D

SchmilK

03-28-2006, 03:19 PM

BEEEEFCAAAAAKE!
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/photo6.jpg

zengirl

03-28-2006, 03:21 PM

Who are you replying to here...? Your post showed up when I was replying to Coqui... :confused:
:lol: I don't think he was replying to anyone, just making a comment in general.

He does that sometimes

:fly:

zengirl

03-28-2006, 03:23 PM

Doesn't he inject himself with palm oil or something in order to get that *koff* look?
According to the show we watched last night, he was a big time steroid user. He would use dirty needles as well and ended up with a massive infection in his bicep.

It was really really gross.

I mean it's gross without the swelling of a massive infection, but it's compounded.

That whole body building thing just isn't for me at all. I find it the opposite of attractive

lemon_fresh

03-28-2006, 03:28 PM

Save your money and go and buy a book on nutrition. Or even get yourself that south beach diet book. Simply changing what you eat can lead to weight loss. I know.

I've had great success with starting out using the South Beach Diet plan. I've also kept the weight off which is usually an issue w/ diets.

I tend to eat properly 5 days out of the week, that way if we have dinner out or a party to attend I just eat what I want. Then the next day it's back to eating sensibly.

Next on the list, for me, at least is to start doing some excercise to tone up my new skinny self.

SchmilK

03-28-2006, 04:35 PM

http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/sbpd0000.jpeg

ChikkenNoodul

03-28-2006, 05:09 PM

I reject any diet that doesn't allow for at least a six-pack of beer daily

ChikkenNoodul

03-28-2006, 05:11 PM

I'm a self admitted glutton. You just have to work out more if you want to eat
Pretty much, I have free reign to eat whatever the hell I want as long as I'm working out

But when I stopped working out and started eating like each day was my last a couple years back....well, not so good at not getting fat :fly:

Coqui

03-28-2006, 05:18 PM

Doesn't he inject himself with palm oil or something in order to get that *koff* look?

He admits to steroids, but people suspect he injects Synthol

JPatrick

03-28-2006, 05:20 PM

I reject any diet that doesn't allow for at least a six-pack of beer daily

Hear hear!

itburnswhenipee

03-28-2006, 05:28 PM

He admits to steroids, but people suspect he injects Synthol

Synthol? Isn't that what they drank at 10 Forward on Star Trek? Or Maybe it's a motor oil.

Coqui

03-28-2006, 05:30 PM

Synthol? Isn't that what they drank at 10 Forward on Star Trek? Or Maybe it's a motor oil.

Synthol is composed of 85% medium-chain triglyceride oils (a fatty acid), 7.5% lidocaine (painkiller), and 7.5 5 benzyl alcohol. The preparation is injected deep into the muscle where it is encapsulated between the fascicles (bundles of muscle fibers) . With repeated injections, a larger volume of oil builds up inside the muscle, expanding its size like a balloon filling up with air. About 30% of what is injected is metabolized by the body. The other 70% remains lodged in the muscle where it breaks down very slowly over three to five years. There seems to be some issue of debate among bodybuilders as to whether or not Synthol actually lasts this long, and some believe it is even longer. Chris Clark, its inventor, is convinced that it somehow leads to permanent muscle growth in the effected areas, though even he is unsure of the mechanisms that would make this possible. Synthol users report amazing pumps while training, though this could be a result of the extra pressure of the accumulated oil.

w_a_w

03-28-2006, 05:32 PM

Synthol? Isn't that what they drank at 10 Forward on Star Trek? Or Maybe it's a motor oil.

"personal lubricant"

SemperFly

03-28-2006, 05:39 PM

Synthol is composed of 85% medium-chain triglyceride oils (a fatty acid), 7.5% lidocaine (painkiller), and 7.5 5 benzyl alcohol. The preparation is injected deep into the muscle where it is encapsulated between the fascicles (bundles of muscle fibers) . With repeated injections, a larger volume of oil builds up inside the muscle, expanding its size like a balloon filling up with air. About 30% of what is injected is metabolized by the body. The other 70% remains lodged in the muscle where it breaks down very slowly over three to five years. There seems to be some issue of debate among bodybuilders as to whether or not Synthol actually lasts this long, and some believe it is even longer. Chris Clark, its inventor, is convinced that it somehow leads to permanent muscle growth in the effected areas, though even he is unsure of the mechanisms that would make this possible. Synthol users report amazing pumps while training, though this could be a result of the extra pressure of the accumulated oil.Well that's quite a waste...make your muscles look big but without actually making them more useful? If that's the core idea behind body building then I really can't see the point. :confused:

ChikkenNoodul

03-28-2006, 05:52 PM

Well that's quite a waste...make your muscles look big but without actually making them more useful? If that's the core idea behind body building then I really can't see the point. :confused:
Yes, it's primarily about 'size'/appearance rather than improved strength/fitness.

This of course applies only to those freaks in the muscle magazines that compete on the professional level.

b_sinning

03-28-2006, 06:29 PM

Doesn't he inject himself with palm oil or something in order to get that *koff* look?

Synthol it's an oil used to make the muscles look bigger. It's crap. It messes up your muscles and it's very noticable. Can get you banned sometimes.

Greg V. is a freak. He injected everything he could in his arms. One bicep looks odd becuase it became massive infected and they cut a chunk out.

Body builders are not power lifters. Power lifters are usually husky.

Body builders that lift crazy heavy get hurt and can't compete anymore.

KNYTE

03-28-2006, 06:33 PM

Synthol it's an oil used to make the muscles look bigger. It's crap. It messes up your muscles and it's very noticable. Can get you banned sometimes.

Greg V. is a freak. He injected everything he could in his arms. One bicep looks odd becuase it became massive infected and they cut a chunk out.

He doesn't look even remotely natural. He looks (as you said) freakish.

Plus, even with that muscle mass he's still vulnerable to bullets, just like everyone else.

edit: I just read his bio, the guy is 5'6, my freaking height. He must scare children when they walk down the street looking the way he does.

w_a_w

03-28-2006, 06:40 PM

SemperFly

03-28-2006, 06:45 PM

Plus, even with that muscle mass he's still vulnerable to bullets, just like everyone else.

true and that amount of mass is more of a hinderance if his mouth starts writing checks his butt can't cash

Sarcasmo

03-28-2006, 09:07 PM

Rule number 73:

Never EVER pay anyone to get you to lose weight or give you a job. Both are bullshit schemes that you can do for yourself for free.

JJ Lady

03-28-2006, 09:18 PM

NutriSystem is a better way to go.

Or just take Clenbuterol. If you can't lose some weight on Clen then you're probably dead.
Weight watchers is the better way to go. I have a friend at work who is doing it now and has lost 7 pounds in 2 weeks. You just have to do the annoying point counting thing

mikey

03-28-2006, 09:39 PM

Weight watchers is the better way to go. I have a friend at work who is doing it now and has lost 7 pounds in 2 weeks. You just have to do the annoying point counting thing

i've gained 7 in the past three. i was rather proud.

then i took a dump.

b_sinning

03-28-2006, 10:19 PM

He doesn't look even remotely natural. He looks (as you said) freakish.

Plus, even with that muscle mass he's still vulnerable to bullets, just like everyone else.

edit: I just read his bio, the guy is 5'6, my freaking height. He must scare children when they walk down the street looking the way he does.

He writes a colum for Muscular Development. His nickname is the Rambling Freak. His colum is always just insane. He has destroyed his brain and he didn't have much to begin with. His arms got so big thet he couldn't do stuff like brush his teeth except for ones with very long built on handles. When they are that big you limit their movement.

You should see if they offer something like Nicotrel except for weight lost.

http://media.putfile.com/SNL-Nicotrel-Rock

sizzlinggrace

03-29-2006, 01:06 AM

Weight watchers is the better way to go. I have a friend at work who is doing it now and has lost 7 pounds in 2 weeks. You just have to do the annoying point counting thing

i thought weight watchers was essentially just calorie counting though, why pay for that? :confused: i do that on my own and lost 15 pounds in 4 months

*Fuxx Burger*

03-30-2006, 06:38 PM

Its a lot more then just calorie counting. It's a point system (my mom successfully lost 25lbs on it) and it also focuses alot on portion sizes, and teaching you about nutrition. Counting calories dosen't always work. You also have to look at fat content etc...

Good luck zengirl... Hopefully you are not getting screwed over.

SemperFly

03-30-2006, 06:55 PM

so last night she said that when i start training full time and have to cut out all the fun stuff (smoking, drinking, junk food, sex) that she's going to make everyone in the house follow the same healthy routine :eek: hell no i'm not being held responsible for schmilk being denied his oreos and little debbies :P but the point is that sheer adherance to a set of dietary rules and exercise regiment will be more beneficial than some nutrisystem jenny craig gobbledygook (i luv that werd)

but this is an opportunity to get some extra cash so I hope it's all kosher :cool:

Its a lot more then just calorie counting. It's a point system (my mom successfully lost 25lbs on it) and it also focuses alot on portion sizes, and teaching you about nutrition. Counting calories dosen't always work. You also have to look at fat content etc...

Good luck zengirl... Hopefully you are not getting screwed over.
Far more important than fat content or calorie counting is the quality of the food you're eating. The human body needs fat, it needs sugar, it needs carbs, and it needs calories. Simply cutting those may help someone drop weight but it's not necessarily going to make that person healthier. Avoiding processed foods, especially those containing artificial sweeteners (which make diet sodas ridiculously counterproductive - you'll gain more weight with diet coke than regular) and preservatives, and ensuring that the foods you eat provide you with enough nutrients in addition to the fat, carbs, protien, and calories your body needs is going to help more than simply treating calories and fat like a math problem.

Though I've heard conflicting reports about mutlivitamin supplements :confused: I have a nutritionist that says to stay away from them but others day they're perfectly fine. Either way I'm listening to my guy and getting what I need from V8 and 100% fruit juices. :D

ChikkenNoodul

03-30-2006, 07:13 PM

Either way I'm listening to my guy and getting what I need from V8 and 100% fruit juices. :D
If you do V8, get the low sodium version

The regular one has a CRAPLOAD of sodium :fly:

SemperFly

03-30-2006, 07:16 PM

If you do V8, get the low sodium version

The regular one has a CRAPLOAD of sodium :fly:
yeah I know, I should pay more attention to sodium content. at least sarah buys sea salt which is supposed to be better for me than plain or iodized :)

I do enjoy the V8 though, that's good stuff

ChikkenNoodul

03-30-2006, 08:22 PM

yeah I know, I should pay more attention to sodium content. at least sarah buys sea salt which is supposed to be better for me than plain or iodized :)

I do enjoy the V8 though, that's good stuff
Yep, sea salt is better IMO

But I avoid salt of any kind as much as possible, my father had high blood pressure which eventually killed him

I do agree though, V8 is tasty :drool: Particularly the spicy V8 mixed with a good potato vodka :drool:^BradPittsCokeHabit

Candy

03-30-2006, 09:04 PM

Yep, sea salt is better IMO

But I avoid salt of any kind as much as possible, my father had high blood pressure which eventually killed him

I do agree though, V8 is tasty :drool: Particularly the spicy V8 mixed with a good potato vodka :drool:^BradPittsCokeHabit

Check out a Bloody Mary mixer call Zing Zang. :drool: You will not be disspointed. Not to "tomato juice", not to "cocktail sauce."

kiwi

03-30-2006, 09:16 PM

Yep, sea salt is better IMO

But I avoid salt of any kind as much as possible, my father had high blood pressure which eventually killed him

I do agree though, V8 is tasty :drool: Particularly the spicy V8 mixed with a good potato vodka :drool:^BradPittsCokeHabit

At the doctor yesterday my blood pressure was 90/50 something (and they say your blood pressure goes up when you're pregnant), do you think I should eat more salt? :fly: