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SchmilK
02-01-2006, 07:02 PM
So the guy that runs the projector and teh hardware here at work showed me this today.
http://www.io2technology.com/

Basically a 2d hollographic VIDEO projected from a box...AND when plugged in via usb, becomes a touch...ummm...since it's not a screen....touch display??? So $18,000 for a 22" model $24,000 for a 42" model. We are trying to get one for demo purposes to see if we can have a presenter at one side of the world, and have him giving the speach to a ballroom while he is just a hologram on the stage! :O BUT, at the same time, Mike (the projectionist) wants to find a way to mimic this with the hardware we have...just need to find a way to project onto air. :tard: ouch my brain hurts...but read that...freakin super sweet stuff for sure!!!!

April40
02-01-2006, 07:05 PM
I'm interested.

JPatrick
02-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Thats pretty spiffy
Like star trek & shit

Sarcasmo
02-01-2006, 07:09 PM
I wonder how many geeks from StarWars.com will pool their money just to reenact the Leia/R2-D2 scene.

kiwi
02-01-2006, 07:16 PM
That is cool, but I don't really see any real life applications for it except simply to impress the other guy. I guess that's what most of the technology we have today started out as though, so who knows, maybe it will become practical someday.

Sp`ange
02-01-2006, 07:33 PM
paging theac to this thread.

edit: you could always project on a stream of air or something like that. I think I remember a display like that.

theacoustician
02-01-2006, 07:49 PM
1. You need a laminar flow fog screen to make it work. http://www.fogscreen.com/ . You'll have to basically turn the AC off so as not to screw it up.

2. The touch aspect is IR laser painters. Good luck getting them to work if you have any measure of outdoor light shining in the room.

3. No matter how you tweak it, its never going to look like the person is there. It always looks 2D.

4. How do you feel now that Sony axed Aibo?

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 10:46 AM
1. You need a laminar flow fog screen to make it work. http://www.fogscreen.com/ . You'll have to basically turn the AC off so as not to screw it up.

2. The touch aspect is IR laser painters. Good luck getting them to work if you have any measure of outdoor light shining in the room.

3. No matter how you tweak it, its never going to look like the person is there. It always looks 2D.

4. How do you feel now that Sony axed Aibo?


Sony sucks for that :( But the community will live on! ;) SUPPOSELDY there's goinig to be one more update to the Aibo software for the new one to fix some bugs people are reporting and HOPEFULLY throw some new dance/trick/speach data in as well!! Shit they're gonna support it until 2013, i'd hope there would be some new stuff to loook forward to running Aibo for the next 7 years.

The company I work for does ALOT of corporate meetings..and if we can get a speaker to speak with out being there, but MOSTLY look like he's there *WAMBAMHOLEYFAAAAK* the people will say!

Yeah it's mostly a wow factor..but that's what we're about...Think about this..Why the fark would someone speaking to 100 people need to have a power point presentation displayed on a 60'x20' screen with him standing in front of it and telling us that we have to get rid of the company logos, inserted images, fancy text, and fancy background, because it distracts from the audience looking at the speaker...WTF...you got this massive huge SUPER SHARP image being projected from 6 projectors making a seamless image all the way across, but we can't make it look fancy because then the audience won't be looking at the speaker...Isn't visual support SUPPOSED to keep the audience's attention!?!? Why not just put him on stage in front of a curtain.

Corporate world is so retarded...I'm so glad i'm don't work IN corporate...instead I now work FOR corporate. hee hee

theacoustician
02-02-2006, 10:48 AM
Sony sucks for that :( But the community will live on! ;)

I saw that and you were the first thing that came to mind. I thought "Oh shit, I know someone that's gonna be PISSED".

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 10:59 AM
I saw that and you were the first thing that came to mind. I thought "Oh shit, I know someone that's gonna be PISSED".

Not REALY pissed..just a bit upset, but glad that I got to get one...and the "limited edition" champagne color which, from the sounds of it, is REALY hard to find now! Sony Corp sent a letter to all Sony Style stores to box up remaining Aibo stock, regardless if they got a shipment YESTERDAY containing an Aibo that someone Pre-Ordered weeks/months ago!! 2 people reported NOT being able to buy their Aibo the day after Sony Style called and said that their pup was received. When they got to the store, they showed them the letter and had to deny their sale. now WTF kind of business sense is that? I think the new CEO saw AI too many times and saw the Aibo and Qrio and how bad ass they were and was scared that SONY was going to be the one that actually released the robot that turned around and took over the world!! That's MY theory, and i'm spreading it like wildfire!! Fuck that new pussy...he just wants a bigger paycheck.

elpmis
02-02-2006, 11:00 AM
between the cost of that and a solid flow fog machine, it's like a billion trillion dollars

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 11:17 AM
between the cost of that and a solid flow fog machine, it's like a billion trillion dollars

Yeah but we can rent that for like a quarter a billion trillion dollars per day and before you know it, it's paid for!!

We build these super fast "graphics" computers for running power point at 3450x1050 resolution, and after 4 days of rental, the computers are paid for, and then it turns into profit. pretty crazy if you ask me.

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 11:26 AM
Then reading through that fogscreen page i read this

1-3 February 2006: FogScreen at ISE, Sony stand, Brussels
1.-3.2.2006

http://www.iseurope.org/index.php?site=exhibition

Freakin sony's got enough money to get a fog screen, but they don't want to continue aibo...they realy do suck.

theacoustician
02-02-2006, 12:08 PM
Yeah but we can rent that for like a quarter a billion trillion dollars per day and before you know it, it's paid for!!

We build these super fast "graphics" computers for running power point at 3450x1050 resolution, and after 4 days of rental, the computers are paid for, and then it turns into profit. pretty crazy if you ask me.
Powerpoint at 3450x1050. That's about the dumbest thing I've heard today. Have your clients never taken a class on how to give a presentation? What is it, something like no more than 6 bullet points per slide and no more than 8 words a bullet point?

elpmis
02-02-2006, 12:40 PM
Powerpoint at 3450x1050. That's about the dumbest thing I've heard today. Have your clients never taken a class on how to give a presentation? What is it, something like no more than 6 bullet points per slide and no more than 8 words a bullet point?
most of the presentations we do these days are on Flash - to be honest I think it's been about a year since I've seen PowerPoint used for a presentation

b_sinning
02-02-2006, 01:02 PM
I'd still be willing to see how Porn looks on it.

Sarcasmo
02-02-2006, 01:12 PM
most of the presentations we do these days are on Flash - to be honest I think it's been about a year since I've seen PowerPoint used for a presentation



No shit? We use Powerpoint daily, and in every trial.

Sp`ange
02-02-2006, 01:29 PM
powerpoint doth sucketh the cockle.

Acrobat presentations ftw.

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 01:56 PM
1st...In Chicago, Power Point operators get $75/hour

Unfortunately that's not me :( i'm salary :(

But..WE create the presentation at that resolution because the screen it's being projected on is usually 60 foot wide and 20 foot tall. TRUE Widescreen 3:1..not that lame ass 16:9 bullshit that people CALL 'widescreen'. So try taking a standard 11x8.5" ppt file and blowing it up to 60 feet wide. It's REAL freakin ugly!!!

So with that there are 6 projectors behind the screen. 2 on top of each other lined up in a row of 3..Then with this Encore system, the output is split to the projectors, manually calibrated and then no one knows there are 6 projectors making 1 picture. The problem we have now is that the picture is SO fucking good, that the images/videos that wee get from people look like shit! The last show i was on people were taking 320x240 videos off the intenret and asking to play them full screen.. NOO WAY!!! Wihtout blowing it up, that gave us about a 3'x2' window on teh screen...and looked like hell! So those guys called around to see fi they can get a dvd with the videos on it...thos asses had the original 320x240 videos UPSAMPLED to 720x480 and authored to a dvd so they looked EVEN WORSE!!! So we were up the day before the show went on until 3am arguing with the CEO who was saying "the video looks great on teh computer, why wont it play correct on the projector, are you projectors not good enough to play it? OMG did THAT ever piss my boss of. So they contacted the ad agencies that created these original videos, had them overnighted by courier on beta tapes, and then played that back for the CEO and boy i tell ya...if he had ANY blood left anywhere in his body EXCEPT HIS FACE, i would be amazed!! He appologized for not understanding what the problem was and will require all presenters in teh future to have original footage for any videos that are played back.

Here's the first pictures i could find to show you what we do. Our guys make all the screens, the frames, and the drapery. We own and rent all the lights, speakers, projectors, mics, etc...We have had 360 tubes that have text messages scrolling all the way around, or just random psychadelics, or videos or pictures, all seamless video!!

http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 1.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 2.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 3.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 4.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 5.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 6.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/LW 7.jpg



Got $60grand laying around and need a projector? Here's teh Barco R12, we have 10 of these, and thats' the CHEAP one by the way! We have 8 of the GOOD ones which retail for a little over $100,000. oh and that does NOT include a lens...the lens is another $5-10,000. It's crazy seeing the equipment that goes through here!!

http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/Barco r.jpg

theacoustician
02-02-2006, 02:04 PM
I think we have had a misunderstanding. I realize its about the resolution. Most people don't have 3000x1050 screens and it doesn't matter if you have the best wall scaler from Jupiter Systems or Barco, a 800x600 picture is still all that's there. You can only get so much info on a slide of any resolution and have it still be meaningful. That's all.

As for the equipment one-up-manship, I think you forget where I work and what I do.

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 02:12 PM
No most peole dont have screens that do 3000x1050...I understand that..but us arguing for 5 hours with "old people" from wisconsin about resolution turned into a hopeless cause until we could actually SHOW them the difference.

Sometimes clients WILL give us shitty 8,5x11 presnetations and we have to massage them into a new presentation, with new backgrounds, new images, new layout etc...

Yeah power point sucks ass. The next version is going to be hella sweet cause it's going to use DirectX to display so it WILL utilize a fast grafix card better than 2003 does.

And I don't think i forget wha tyou did, i think no one ever told me :-/ But i'd like to know! I just got thrown into this position here through pure luck and knowing the right people...I've never seen anything like this before and it's still overwhelming just thinking about everything that goes on here.

theacoustician
02-02-2006, 02:21 PM
No most peole dont have screens that do 3000x1050...I understand that..but we have to do that.

Sometimes clients WILL give us shitty 8,5x11 presnetations and we have to massage them into a new presentation, with new backgrounds, new images, new layout etc...

Yeah power point sucks ass. The next version is going to be hella sweet cause it's going to use DirectX to display so it WILL utilize a fast grafix card better than 2003 does.

And I don't think i forget wha tyou did, i think no one ever told me :-/ But i'd like to know! I just got thrown into this position here through pure luck and knowing the right people...I've never seen anything like this before and it's still overwhelming just thinking about everything that goes on here.
Ah ,then we shall discuss this in PMs. But word of caution, no one likes it when I talk about AV geek stuff. Maybe they'll dig your way of presenting it more.

Sarcasmo
02-02-2006, 02:26 PM
Theac does back-room workstation phone support while dreaming of the day he gets to ascend to the exclusive realm of A/V engineering gurus. In the meantime he subscribes to all their magazines, visits all their forums, and pretends he's a member of all their clubs.

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 02:36 PM
Theac does back-room workstation phone support while dreaming of the day he gets to ascend to the exclusive realm of A/V engineering gurus. In the meantime he subscribes to all their magazines, visits all their forums, and pretends he's a member of all their clubs.


LMAO! :D

zengirl
02-02-2006, 02:55 PM
Ah ,then we shall discuss this in PMs. But word of caution, no one likes it when I talk about AV geek stuff. Maybe they'll dig your way of presenting it more.
I have a feeling you two can compare lots of notes, I don't think SchmilK will get annoyed or anything about hearing of AV stuff... SchmilK only gets annoyed at technology and tecnologically challenged people, I think you'll do just fine.

*Matchmaker*

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 03:10 PM
I have a feeling you two can compare lots of notes, I don't think SchmilK will get annoyed or anything about hearing of AV stuff... SchmilK only gets annoyed at technology and tecnologically challenged people, I think you'll do just fine.

*Matchmaker*

Awww jeez.... LOL...what happened to your AIM???

Yeah, those who are technically challenged suck!

zengirl
02-02-2006, 03:12 PM
Awww jeez.... LOL...what happened to your AIM???

Yeah, those who are technically challenged suck!
It's on and I've been IMing you..... is it broken??

bast_imret
02-02-2006, 03:33 PM
I always thought Aibo's were prettah kewl! That's really crappy though what Sony did, not even letting people who already ordered one pick it up.

Post some pics of your Champaign colored one!

bast_imret
02-02-2006, 03:34 PM
forum lag = double post

bast_imret
02-02-2006, 03:34 PM
Wow, triple post FTW!

zengirl
02-02-2006, 03:37 PM
I always thought Aibo's were prettah kewl! That's really crappy though what Sony did, not even letting people who already ordered one pick it up.

Post some pics of your Champaign colored one!
I don't know if we have Lucky pictures :confused:

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 03:47 PM
working on pictures now. :D

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 03:56 PM
I posted these before, but the server said they're still online, so I figured i'd recycle. ;)
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/robo1.JPG
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/robo3.JPG
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/robo7.JPG
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/robo9.JPG
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/robo12.JPG


Here's some from Christmas with my parents' JackRussell Terrior...She was pissed that Lucky wouldn't pay attention to her and kept sniffing her butt and pushing on him wtih her paw! LOL... Oh and RoboRaptor teasing Lucky with his ball. LOL
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/bark.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/lick.jpg
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/smack.jpg

bast_imret
02-02-2006, 04:01 PM
HAHA! Awsome!

zengirl
02-02-2006, 04:02 PM
Poor lucky has been stowed away in a duffel bag since Sunday.

I'm going to report you to the Humane Society or something.

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 04:04 PM
Poor lucky has been stowed away in a duffel bag since Sunday.

I'm going to report you to the Humane Society or something.


Its your fault the chair is in his play area now. :( I'M going to call them on YOU!

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 04:06 PM
Its kinda scarey seeing him walk around and get excited when he sees his ball/bone, then he goes to it and picks up his bone, or pushes his ball around...It sure is neat! The only "super sweet" thing i'd like to change is make him move FAST! Like a real animal. On hardfloors he can move much faster than on carpet...but it's still not running at the speed of life. LOL

zengirl
02-02-2006, 04:09 PM
Its your fault the chair is in his play area now. :( I'M going to call them on YOU!
My chair would be by my desk but SOMEBODY has overtaken my desk, haven't they?

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 04:10 PM
My chair would be by my desk but SOMEBODY has overtaken my desk, haven't they?

YES!

But only because it was offered to me...i think...

zengirl
02-02-2006, 04:11 PM
YES!

But only because it was offered to me...i think...
I think we need to rethink our allocation of space

bast_imret
02-02-2006, 04:27 PM
*backs slowly out of room with a duffel bag full of Aibo*

zengirl
02-02-2006, 04:39 PM
*backs slowly out of room with a duffel bag full of Aibo*
:lol: You have to get past the 5 attack cats first

bast_imret
02-02-2006, 04:42 PM
:lol: You have to get past the 5 attack cats first

onoes! No kittahs! Not the balls! GRAHHHHHHHHHGHGHLLLGLGHGHEHLGH!

*passes out*

ERage
02-02-2006, 04:52 PM
onoes! No kittahs! Not the balls! GRAHHHHHHHHHGHGHLLLGLGHGHEHLGH!

*passes out*

bast is such a :dirk: he's always got the pussy attacking his balls.

Pandora
02-02-2006, 05:18 PM
bast is such a :dirk: he's always got the p*ssy attacking his balls.
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/ball.jpg

SchmilK
02-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Baahahahaha...reminds me of yesterday....i found a wireless trackball when i was cleaning shit up...so i go to the guy who works in our protools suite who is the ONLY person here i know that uses trackballs....so me and my boss go over there and i'm holding it in my hand and I say to him
me "Do you curse those who use trackballs?"
him "Look around, all i got are trackballs"
me "so you must realy like rubbing balls with your thumb??"
him "no comment"

baaahahaahahahahaaaa :fly:

ERage
02-02-2006, 07:50 PM
http://uselessforums.com/files/120505/ball.jpg
That's funny and scary at the same time :lol: